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Pseudolonewolf
6 years ago

Missing MARDEK Saves

◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
Categories: BugsFH Games The SiteMARDEK
A few people have already explained the solution to this in comments and things, but I'm writing this so then I can link people to it instead of explaining the same thing over and over again in PMs.

If you had MARDEK saved games on the old Fig Hunter site, you may notice that they are missing from this version. They're not gone as such; it's just that Flash saves are linked to the url, meaning that those saves are linked to www.fighunter.com, but you're now playing on bubbles.fighunter.com.
When I move this version of the site to the www address - whenever that may be - they'll come back, but for now, it's possible to find and move the saves so you can play them again.

Irritatingly, the location of these files differs based on your operating system... I use Windows Vista, and this is where they are for me; they may be the same on Windows 7 as well:

C:Users[username]AppDataRoamingMacromediaFlash Player#SharedObjects[random string]

Replace [username] with your username on your computer, of course. [random string] could be anything; something like UWJUCWE, maybe. You'll know it when you see it.

From that folder, you'll need to find the 'www.fighunter.com' folder, and inside are your saves. You'll need to make a new 'bubbles.fighunter.com' folder if there isn't one already, then just copy and paste them from one folder to the other.

There's not really anything I can do to make this easier, since how Flash saves is not within my control (if it was, I'd let you choose the location for the saves).

Anyway, hopefully this is of some help to at least someone.
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nikolapestanac
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i dont have a www.fighunter.com folder but the game save is sometimes there and sometimes not
timtoborne
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timtoborne 19 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic ENTP 512 186C
haha! I'll bet it does get quite annoying when people are always asking the same stupid question over and over again, because they're too damn lazy to look for a solution in your posts, instead of PMing you repeatedly about the problem their too stupid to solve on their own.
anakin123
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anakin123 19 Belgium MelancholicPhlegmatic INFJ 459 282C
Yes it seems as the games on bubbles.... is gone now.
StrawHatZach
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Does this now apply to the new site change? Because my save files are gone now, but there were there yesterday...
Zuriki
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But one of the many problems with Flash. Adobe needs to loosen the belt a bit and give more power to the developers, things such as proper filesystem control, even if it was very restricted, it would be nice to have some flexibility. Plus Flash's cookie-type saving system is horribly inefficient, the throughput of the system in real-terms (KB/s) is in the single digits, which is bad for floppy discs, never mind high-speed HDDs!

Glad I have all 3 MARDEK games saved locally so I don't have to deal with this problem!
lazarony
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lazarony 30 United States CholericSanguine ESTJ 8w7 503C
As an IT security professional, it's extremely dangerous to give web-based applications the ability to save to other locations. And the majority of your flash experience is loaded into memory, so the speed of the save (as it is rather simplistic and small) is more or less unimportant.
smurfton
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Seeing as you are an IT security professional, do you mind if I ask you a question? How safe would it be for there to be a Flash saves folder that Flash Player is restricted to, but instead of being stored by website, what if it was stored by the Flash developer's choice? As a side note, shouldn't sub-domains have access to things stored on your computer about other sub-domains, as no one, for example, could own grapes.fighunter.com/ unless it was Pseudo?
Zuriki
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This reminds me of an unusual situation that happened a few years back. The site darkthrone.com used multiple sub-domains for it's various versions (omega.darkthrone.com, beta.darkthrone.com, etc) and some password phishers somehow set up a silver.darkthrone.com domain without hacking the darkthrone servers or anything! I don't know how they did it exactly, but it goes to show, if someone is determined enough...
lazarony
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lazarony 30 United States CholericSanguine ESTJ 8w7 503C
Yeah, this is the problem inherent with allowing subdomains to talk. Each subdomain, even if using the same domain, can be treated as completely separate entities.
Zuriki
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Yeah, I know the problems associated with it, but there are ways around it -- such as asking the user to give the application permission to write to disk (and a suitably large warning telling them it could potentially write a virus, etc). Flash actually *does* have the ability to write to disk, but it's only available to local applications (using the standalone FP). I'm using this feature to make a utility for my game to create maps.
lazarony
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lazarony 30 United States CholericSanguine ESTJ 8w7 503C
Yeah, standalone flash works fine writing to disk. Application permission is always hairy, and is abused to perform the majority of exploits we see on a daily basis. I would guess the development process included the idea that the less a user can do to circumvent the system, the less harm they can cause.
Zuriki
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Macromedia used to undermine their own security systems all the time with undocumented functions such as "MMSave" which allowed the writing of files to the disk even through embedded SWFs. Commands such as that have since been removed by Adobe, but even so.
lazarony
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lazarony 30 United States CholericSanguine ESTJ 8w7 503C
Yeah, I remember that. Been a while since it's been an issue, but the whole point is security.
Faari
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On Windows 7 it another way is to type in search for programs and files in the start button menu. Then you search for %appdata% and it takes you to the roaming folder.
firecrow91
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Just wanted to add that yes, it is the same on Windows 7. However, the App Data folder is hidden (on Windows 7 at least). To make it visible:

Go to Control Panel, Folder Options, View, and select Show Hidden Files, Folders and Drives.

Also, it is quite possible for there to be multiple random string folders. (Not sure if this still applies to newer OS, but I had this happen on Windows XP) If this happens, sort the folders by date modified and the right one should be at the top.
RickyTheHedgehog
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Or another way of accessing it is by typing '%appdata%' into the Start menu's search bar, and it takes you directly into Roaming.
Sir Vitor
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Thank you a lot!May Yalort and Solak bless you.I found it on bubblesfighunter.com and etcetera, and I'am really happy to find it after 3 years searching.

But if you know this shortcut exists, than you might be able to tell me..

can I save this file #bubbles.fighunter.com in a pendrive to play it elsewhere?
RickyTheHedgehog
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I'd assume that you'd be able to save that folder onto a USB or something, and put it on another computer just the same as backing them up and it should work. But I don't think you would be able to load the saves directly from the USB.
firecrow91
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You sure can. Just copy them the same way you would any other file, and yes, you need to be sure to put them in the right folder on the other computer. (Try starting a new savegame if you want to find the right place.) This is very useful if you get a new computer and don't want to lose your saved games.
SomeColorMage
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Ah, thank you! I'd forgotten where the hidden folder settings were. Honestly, I think it's absurd that the folders are hidden by default to administrators, there's important stuff in some of those!

And, as a general warning to everyone, don't forget that when this part of the site is moved to the main address, you'll need to move your saves back.
cheatgamer131
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Thank you very much! Now I have no more problems with the MARDEK Saves.
NynjahFisheh
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NynjahFisheh 17 United States SanguineMelancholic ESFP 4w5 7C
Yeah, this is a great solution for the people who had saves on the OLD site, but I had started on the new site, with every single chapter in it. I have no idea how it could've happened, since i started here and all.
felipe970421
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There is a great forum in kongregate that explains very well how to find the folder ∞ LINK ∞ the instructions are actually for making a backup (which is also useful) but you can find the [random string] using this guide