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Pseudolonewolf
4 years ago

Temperaments and MBTI Correlation

◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
I know I said I'd start using this only for game updates, but I feel that this might be something mildly interesting to a few of you since both of these personality systems are used on this site.

I've essentially abandoned the use of temperaments myself since discovering Myers-Briggs and the Enneagram, since they're inferior in many ways. However, I've just been reading something that assigns one of the temperament names to certain interaction styles, and lists each Myers-Briggs type that fits each one.

These four 'interaction styles' are based around the idea of Directing/Informing, and Responding/Initiating.

Directive behaviour is commanding, while Informing is not; compare "give me some help" with "I need some help here!". Both are meant as a way of communicating a request, but the directing one is blunt, imperative and to the point, while the informing one merely conveys information and expects the recipient to act on it of their own volition. Some directive types can be oblivious to informing types' requests because they don't realise they're requests at all, while informing types may find directive commands brusque and rude.

Responding and Initiating are in many ways introversion and extroversion, or background and foreground; initiators get things going, while responders wait for others to make the first move, essentially.

The four temperaments are pairs of these, and four Myers-Briggs types tend to fit into each one:



Choleric ("In Charge")
Directing + Initiating
Types: ENFJ ENTJ ESTJ ESTP


Melancholic ("Chart the Course")
Directing + Responding
Types: INFJ INTJ ISTJ ISTP


Sanguine ("Get things Going")
Informing + Initiating
Types: ENFP ENTP ESFJ ESFP


Phlegmatic ("Behind the Scenes")
Informing + Responding
Types: INFP INTP ISFJ ISFP



As an INFJ, I'm directing and responding, and that fits well enough with Melancholic, which is good to know. Despite being naturally directing, I actually don't like the directing style at all, and tend to consciously use informing language and prefer to be on the receiving end of it too.

Does your type fit with your temperament here?!?
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Eric B
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Eric B 51 United States PhlegmaticCholeric INTP 694 2C
Hi all!

I've found Interaction Styles to be the key to a full correlation betwen MBTI type and classic temperament. The way it works is that are TWO areas of interaction; SOCIAL skills and LEADERSHIP skills (there's actualy a third, but it doesn't usually correspond to type). Interaction Styles correspond to to social area while Keirsey's temperaments corresponded to leadership (sometimes called "conation").
Each type shares one Keirsey temperament with one Interaction Style, and when you then express the types as blends of the two, YOU GET A SET OF "PROFILES" JUST LIKE THE ONES HERE ON THIS SITE: ∞ Fig Hunter ∞

Notice, the first blend is Choleric-Sanguine. This would correspond in this idea to an "In Charge"—Improvisor(aka "Artisan") or ESTP. And the descriptions do seem to match! Most of the others fit as well! (The so-called "dominant" temperament would match the Interaction Style, which is what we see in the person on the surface).
I'm INTP, which would fit the Phlegmatic-Choleric blend, with its apparent lack of emotion. (It's also true that they often misidentify as Melancholics. That's from mixing one temperament's introversion with the other's directivenss. So the correlations won't always come out right when people take simple temperament quizzes).

Basically, temperament is factored as "expressiveness" and "responsiveness". Anciently, this was Galen's "hot/cold" vs "wet/dry", used for the "humors". Hot/dry is what became I/E or "initiating/responding", and wet/dry is what's being called "directing/informing" (it corresponds to the classic temperament factor called "people vs task focus". I had noticed that both T/F and J/P seemed to fit this factor, and they both do, but in an alternating sort of way).

The way the Interaction Styles can be expressed by type code:

Choleric ("In Charge")
EST; ENJ
Directing ([N]J or [S]T) + Initiating (E)

Melancholic ("Chart the Course")
IST, INJ
Directing ([N]J or [S]T) + Responding (I)

Sanguine ("Get things Going")
ESF, ENP
Informing ([N]P or [S]F) + Initiating (E)

Phlegmatic ("Behind the Scenes")
ISF, INP
Informing ([N]P or [S]F) + Responding (I)

Dr. Linda Berens, who developed the Interaction Styles model also broke down the Keirsey temperaments into another factor called "structure/motive", which would parallel people vs task, and I determined Keirsey's "cooperative vs pragmatic" represent expressiveness.

So it's:

Choleric (Rational)
[N]T Pragmatic + Structure

Melancholic (Guardian)
[S]J Cooperative + Structure

Sanguine ("Artisan")
[S]P Pragmatic + Motive

Phlegmatic: ("Idealist")
[N]F Cooperative + Motive

In all this, we see overall T and J lean toward "task", and F and P lean toward "people", which would make sense. S/N ends up being held in common by "opposite" temperaments, like Sanguine and Melancholic.

(*We often think of the Melancholic as the "artistic" one, and this really threw me off, but you can think of "artisan" in terms of "crafter", whether it's fine arts, or something more physically active like sports or entertainment, which a lot of SP's get into
*Keirsey also matched NF and NT to classic temperament based on "emotion", but using the factors, they correspond tot he revers of what he said).
Ltn Vasquez
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Ltn Vasquez 27 United States PhlegmaticSanguine INFJ 6w5 25C
The description seems to fit very well. For myself, I fit well as a melancholic, though I don't see myself directing. May just be myself.
Tokiwa1997
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I'm an INTJ, and I'm okay being the one making the choices, but I usually don't have that "beat it into their heads if they don't listen" attitude (or not for long), or the charm (or the confidence), and prefer others to make the big choices and then change it to what I want. I prefer correcting, advising, and steering the so-called "leader" to get things done.

Maybe a job in politics???!!?!
FakeKraid
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I walk the line between INTP and INTJ, and it's certainly true that I also prefer to waver between directing and informing. And I'm not an initiator at all.

Assuming those are really what the words mean in that context. A link to the thing you were reading would be nice.
ThirdParty
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ThirdParty 34 United States PhlegmaticCholeric INTJ 514 177C
I'm INTJ, and it seems correct that I'm responding+directing.

The temperaments have never fit me super well. I think I'm a who typically mistypes as on personality tests. But it doesn't really surprise me that my interaction style is labeled "".
Zuriki
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No. I'm (or ) and I'm INTP. I'm much more likely to go with the flow for most things, unless I am very concerned about where the flow is taking me.

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Also, 3 our of the 4 groups seem proactive, and doesn't really seem either proactive or reactive - sort of neutral.
Majora4Prez
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Majora4Prez 21 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 512 37C
Might it be possible that the Four Temperaments may be linked to Robert Plutchik's Wheel of Emotions? I know that people of a certain temperament definitely do not feel a certain emotion at ALL times, nor are the temperaments just "moods" that come and go, but it seems to me that the four are linked with responding to situations with some emotions more frequently than others.

In case you are not familiar with the Wheel of Emotions, it consists of eight "basic" emotions, counterclockwise being Joy, Anticipation, Anger, Disgust, Sadness, Surprise, Fear, and Trust, as well as eight "advanced" emotions that are combinations of adjacent basic emotions, being Optimism (joy + anticipation), Aggression (anticipation + anger), Contempt (anger + disgust), Remorse (disgust + sadness), Disapproval (sadness + surprise), Awe (surprise + fear + ruthless efficiency + an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope + a nice red uniform), Submission (fear + trust), and Love (trust + joy).

is associated with the basic emotion Anger and the advanced emotions Aggressiveness and Contempt; with Sadness, Remorse, and Disapproval; with Fear, Awe, and Submission; and with Joy, Love, and Optimism. Temperament blends, then, would not only be associated with the emotions the primary feels, but also everything between the primary and the secondary's basic emotion; for example, a would be associated with Remorse, Sadness, Disapproval, Surprise, Awe, and Fear, whereas a would be associated with Love, Joy, Optimism, Anticipation, Aggression, and Anger. I suppose someone with a blend of two opposite temperaments would be associated with both the basic and advanced emotions of both its primary and secondary temperaments.

Temperament, MBTI, and the Enneagram all seem to describe totally different things to me. Temperament is pretty much one's attitude and outlook towards life, MBTI is how one collects information and makes decisions, and the Enneagram is about what people desperately do not want to be and the means they use to avoid that. There are certainly correlations (e.g.: it would be difficult to find a 7w8 or a 9w1), but any combination is possible and distinct.

As for your comments of INFJ fitting the label, I know I'm a due to countless factors, but I also tend to use informing language. An INTP is most likely to be , but that doesn't mean they all are. I actually came to similar conclusions to this post independently, but I took it to mean something more along the lines of "It is rare for ENFJs to be " rather than "ENFJs are mostly ".
Ubersupersloth
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These tests always say I'm an introvert just because I prefer to have a small group of close friends. However, I'm very outspoken and often the first on the dance floor in any discos, I have no trouble talking to new people, as well. If you changed my "I" to an "E", my temperament and Myers Briggs personality would fit perfectly.
Blink
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Blink 25 United States CholericMelancholic ENTP 8w7 37C
I'm having an existential crisis after this post! MY LIFE NO LONGER MAKES SENSE. I'm ENTP and Choleric/Melancholic. The two don't go together at all and I'm rather confused.
Majora4Prez
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Majora4Prez 21 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 512 37C
It's entirely possible to be and ENTP. One is choleric is he/she is extroverted, task-oriented, and relatively unemotional, which doesn't infringe on the requirements of being ENTP. In fact, I think Alexander the Great was probably and ENTP.
Silanine
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Silanine 25 United States ISTJ 6w5 46C
It does because I kind of assumed that I would be melancholic... -.- But then I also sorta see myself as being informing and responding.
Majora4Prez
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Majora4Prez 21 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 512 37C
Don't worry about it. I'm a rather informing . I think it's better to think of temperament as three dichotomies of extroversion/introversion, task-/relationship-orientation, and emotional/unemotional.
Silanine
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Silanine 25 United States ISTJ 6w5 46C
I was thinking that it could be how I see myself and not how I really am. But who knows. I get pretty confused if I think about these things for too long.