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5 years ago

Weekly Update

◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
Hello there. After neglecting game development in general for quite a while, I've finally got back into it and started making good progress on Timid Cervid!

Rather than tediously explaining what I've been doing, I'll show you some screenshots; keep in mind the game is in early development so these don't necessarily reflect the finished work, and there are some really obvious issues and oddities:

I haven't done any tilesets yet, hence the spartan field here! The grass will probably end up being more like the sort I meant to use for Alora Fane, rather than this cartoony style.
This demonstrates the dialogue boxes and dynamic pixelated sprites though, which change based on what you have equipped, as does the animated dialogue portrait.

This shows one of the menus, where you can equip clothes, altering your appearance; it looks much nicer than my other games that had similar features, and the model at the side there changes as you roll over things to equip so you can see what it'll look like before you put it on!
The actual items in the list have bland names at the moment, and they have no little image things; pyjamas are not tablets! They're currently using sprites from an entirely different game that I was working on.
Also, the description for the Pyjama Top is wrong there.
(I feel the need to mention all these little details because otherwise there'll be one totally clever person who'll see the need to point them out, won't there?)

This is an example of a battle, though there's nothing really happening at the moment. The background is very temporary; they will be more detailed eventually.
Battles work similarly to MARDEK, except for the types of skills that you use (things like "Smile" or "Awkward Comment" rather than "Flame" or slashing with a weapon).

I've done most of the mechanical stuff now and should be done with it all by the end of the week... I hope. After that, it'll be all about story, graphics, and music, which I hope will go well, but I make no promises about anything.

On another, unrelated note, I've been learning more about Myers-Briggs types recently, and I feel the need to mention this here because I know I've been biased against certain types in the past, but my new understanding shows me that I shouldn't be... Or at least not in the same way.

I've been learning about 'cognitive functions' in particular!
I've talked about this before, a while back, but I'm only beginning to understand the *importance* of it now, so I'm mentioning it again!

You see, each Myers-Briggs type is represented by four letters... but the first and the fourth don't really *mean* anything by themselves.
For example, "INFJ" doesn't necessarily mean "you are an introvert, intuitive, feely, and judging/organised/whatever". Instead, the letters merely represent an *order* of eight 'functions'.

These 'functions' are divided into Perceiving and Judging groups, each of which has two types of functions, and each of those two has two variants, leading to eight.

Perceiving functions deal with how we take in information, I think (though my understanding is less than crystal clear, so I might be wrong).
They are iNtuition, and Sensing.
Intuition deals with the abstract, while Sensing deals with real things. Sensors tend to be good at taking in and interacting with the environment, or moving their own bodies skillfully, while Intuitives see many possible new ideas... or something.
Each comes in an introverted and extraverted flavour; the introverted ones deal with an inner world, while the extraverted ones deal with the outer world. So you end up with:
Se - Extraverted Sensing
Si - Introverted Sensing
Ne - Extraverted Intuition
Ni - Introverted Intuition

Judging functions deal with how we handle the information that we take in... I think.
They are Thinking and Feeling.
Thinking deals with objective facts, logic, analysis, etc, and Feeling with emotions and subjective opinions. I've talked about these often enough before!
Two versions of each gives:
Te - Extraverted Thinking
Ti - Introverted Thinking
Fe - Extraverted Feeling
Fi - Introverted Feeling

Each combination of four letters refers to an order of these functions. We all have all eight, but generally people have four that are strongest:
The Dominant, which comes extremely naturally to them, as if they were 'born to do' it;
The Auxiliary, which is sort of like the First Officer to the Captain that is the Dominant;
The Tertiary, which is largely subconscious but affects the way the mind works significantly;
The Inferior, which is also subconscious, and which tends to emerge under times of stress.

You can work out the functions of a four-letter type code by doing the following:

If the first letter is an E, then the Dominant is an extraverted function; Te, Ne, Fe or Se. If the first type is an I, then the dominant is an introverted function; Ti, Ni, Fi or Si.

If the *fourth* letter is a P:
...and the first is an E, then the Dominant is the perceiving function of the second letter; Ne or Se, and the Auxiliary is the introverted version of the third letter; Ti or Fi.
...and the first is an I, then the Dominant is the *judging* function of the *third* letter; Fi or Ti, and the Auxiliary is the extraverted version of the second letter; Ne or Se. This is confusing!1

If the *fourth* letter is a J:
...and the first is an E, then the Dominant is the judging function of the second letter; Te or Fe, and the Auxiliary is the introverted version of the second letter; Ni or Si.
...and the first is an I, then the Dominant is the *perceiving* function of the *second* letter; Ni or Si, and the Auxiliary is the extraverted version of the third letter; Te or Fe.

The INFERIOR is the 'opposite' of the dominant. It's in the same judging/perceiving category, but both letters are swapped. The opposite of Si, for example, is Ne, and the opposite of Ni is Se.

The tertiary has the same i/e letter as the dominant, and the first letter is the, uh, one that's not been used yet.

I'd be surprised if you could follow that; I barely could! An example makes it easier.

I'll use my type, INFJ.

It has an I first and a J last, so its DOMINANT function is the INTROVERTED version of the PERCEIVING function; so it's Ni: introverted intuition.

Its other letter is F, and since its AUXILIARY must be EXTRAVERTED, that makes it Fe: Extraverted Feeling.

Its INFERIOR is the opposite of its DOMINANT; the opposite of Ni is Se, so Se is the *fourth* function.

There's no T in there yet, and the tertiary has the same i/e letter as the dominant, so in this case the TERTIARY is Ti.

So you get: Ni - Fe - Ti - Se

The other four (which don't seem to have names?) seem to be the same as those order-wise but with the i/e letters swapped, so the eight that INFJ has are:

Ni - Fe - Ti - Se | Ne - Fi - Te - Si

I think those other four are generally ignored in writings about this kind of thing, though.

Do you follow?!? Of course you don't! Or rather, I'd be surprised if you did, because I barely understand this stuff myself, and I very much doubt that one confusingly-written blog post on a gaming website will allow it all to sink into peoples' minds...

I bring this up though because the way I was seeing the types before, INFJ and INFP seemed very similar to eachother. They only have one letter different, after all, so they must be very similar, right?

Well, let's look at their functions!

INFJ: Ni - Fe - Ti - Se | Ne - Fi - Te - Si

INFP: Fi - Ne - Si - Te | Fe - Ni - Se - Ti

So essentially, just changing that P/J letter changes the functions *drastically*, and INFJs four functions are completely different to the INFP's.
Fi and Fe are very different, you see, and the same goes for all the i/e things.
For example, Fi types might be very deeply emotional, but not really concerned about the emotions of *other people*, and able to independently conquer their own emotions, which they might rarely express, while Fe types might live to make others happy while neglecting their own wellbeing, often needing external help to deal with their own emotions, which they express rather clearly.
(My Fe leads to me 'venting' in order to 'let out' my emotions and to seek 'emotional support' from others, which I need in order to keep those emotions under control. A Fi type wouldn't have this same need; they would mostly keep their emotions inside, and would prefer to deal with them alone.)

It's interesting then to look at INTJ and INTP; the most common types on this site:

INTJ: Ni - Te - Fi - Se
INTP: Ti - Ne - Si - Fe

INTJ is very similar to INFJ, but with very, very important differences! Their Extraverted Thinking is their auxillary function, so they tend to interact with the world in an objective, analytical fashion. They have introverted feeling as their tertiary function, though, so this means that inside they might be very emotional, sensitive; they just don't *show* it, nor do they need external help to handle their emotions, and since the tertiary function is largely subconscious, they might not be really 'aware' of these strong emotions, or might not 'understand' them.
Both INFJ and INTJ share introverted intuition as their dominant function, so they develop ideas in similar ways; they also have extraverted sensing as their inferior function, which can lead to things like getting very stressed by environmental factors like loud noises when they're in a poor mood.

The way I thought of Myers-Briggs before led me to think that INTJs and INTPs had more in common than INFJs and INTJs, but this isn't really the case!
INTP runs on introverted thinking, so it's very big on logic and stuff, but cares less about external evidence, expert opinions, brainstorming, etc than the Te-oriented INTJ. Its Feeling function is all the way at the Inferior end, meaning that they are 'less emotional' than INTJs in some sense, but that they tend to be more emotional when under stress. Their emotions relate to the external world, and are subconscious, so they might have emotional outbursts when under stress without really understanding why, or feeling like it's not their nature to be that way, or they might require the emotional support of others in order to feel better. Or something. I don't understand all this stuff with certainty yet.

Interestingly, a type like ESTP (Se - Ti - Fe - Ni) has the same functions as INFJ, just in a different order, despite having the opposite letters, so *supposedly* they can get along well with eachother.
A similar type for INTJ would be ESFP (Se - Fi - Te - Ni), who, despite being extroverts with a F in their type, are emotional internally, but use the extraverted thinking that INTJs use.
That also means that perhaps ESTPs would be more 'feely' and compassionate to others than ESFPs, oddly enough! Or maybe not. I don't know.

Anyway, I found this rather fascinating, so I present it here in case anyone else would get anything out of it!

I read about it when I started wondering whether my type was INFP instead of INFJ... o_O
I know now that it's not, but reading about the functions in isolation made me wonder, because I could relate strongly to Fi, which INFJ doesn't have in its first four functions, but INFP runs on it.

Reading the INFJ and INFP descriptions on this site made me certain I'm INFJ though: ∞ LINK ∞

I strongly recommend reading about your own type on that site; it's very enlightening and useful, and perhaps the best description of each type I've found so far!

Speaking of INTJs, Captain Jean-Luc Picard is a good example of one of those! I also painted a picture of him today. Here it is, to take the edge of all the Myers-Briggs rambling:

5 years ago

Enneagram Tritype (EDIT!)

◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
Categories: EnneagramPersonality
EDIT: It's now possible to change your enneagram type to a tritype from the Settings page!

I've been learning more about the enneagram personality system recently!
It's been bothering me a bit how even people who are INFJ 4w5 don't seem particularly like me... and I wondered why that might be. Life experiences, I assumed, though there's also an aspect to the enneagram that I just learned about that might go a long way towards explaining things like that.

The enneagram is divided into three sections: the 'heart' (2, 3 and 4), 'mind' (5, 6 and 7) and 'guts' (8, 9 and 1).

Apparently we don't have just one enneagram type; we have three, one from each of those sections, ranked in order of their influence over us. This is called the 'tritype'.

In trying to decide on my own tritype, I knew that 2, 3, 7, and especially 8 definitely wouldn't be in there.
I wondered about 6 because I can relate to its anxiety... but I'm just not the kind of loyal protector guardian sort of thing that many 6s are, nor am I guarded and concerned about security. So maybe that wouldn't go in there anywhere.
That left me with 4, 5, 9 and 1. The 1 and 9 had to go together because they're both guts types, so that'd be 9w1 or 1w9; I am a perfectionist, but I value peace more than I value 'perfection' in the type 1 sense, so I felt 9w1 would fit best. I know I'm 4w5, so that'd be at the front, but I couldn't decide whether the order would be 459 or 495...

So I looked for and did this test: ∞ LINK ∞

It gave me this result:

You are a Type 4 with a 5 wing: "The Bohemian"

Your trifix is 4w5, 5w4, 9w1.

In enneagram theory, you have one type for how you relate to the world (either 8, 9, or 1), one type for how you think (5, 6, 7) and one type for how you see yourself (2, 3, 4.) Your tri-fix contains one number from each of these triads. They are listed in the order of how strongly they present in your personality.

Your core type (your strongest type) is Type 4 with a 5 wing: Type Four individuals are intensely emotionally aware, and often retreat to their rich inner world of concepts and ideas. They are the most artistic type in the Enneagram and driven to create their own, unique identity. Type Fours value authenticity highly and express themselves whenever they can. They are one of the most individualistic types in the Enneagram. Type Fours, when in a state of growth, become principled like Type Ones. When stressed, Type Fours can become clingy like an unhealthy Type Two. You are a Type Four with a Five wing, which means that the individualist nature of a Four combines with the cerebral nature of a Five to make you one of the most creative types in the Enneagram.

Your second type (your next strongest type) is Type 5 with a 4 wing: Type Five individuals are cerebral, intelligent, and complex. Type Five is often called the Investigator type, because they are constantly trying to learn more about the world. To a Five, knowledge is power, and knowing more about the world around them makes the world a safer place. It’s common for a Five to withdraw into their own thoughts and ruminate on intricate ideas and concepts. Type Fives, when they are in a growth state, become self-confident and authoritative like a Type Eight. When they are stressed, Type Fives become scattered like an unhealthy Type Seven. You are a Type Five with a Four wing, which means that the cerebral nature of Type Five combines with the creative nature of a Type Four. For this reason, you are likely to challenge established ideas with new and fresh concepts.

Your third type (the least-used of the three) is Type 9 with a 1 wing: Nines are receptive, easygoing, and loveable. Out of all the types in the Enneagram, they have a special ability to get along with others. For this reason, they’re often skilled mediators, resolving conflicts both within themselves and among others. Nines value peace, especially inner peace, very highly. When in a state of growth, Nines become energetic and driven like Type Threes. When stressed, Nines become anxious like an unhealthy Type Six. You are a Type Nine with a One wing, which means that the harmonious traits of the Type Nine merge with the idealistic nature of the Type One. You have an idealized view of the world, and your drive toward harmony is one way to fulfill that dream.

Some words that describe you: relaxed, peaceful, harmonious, creative, unique, authentic, emotional, intelligent, cerebral, questioning.

So that worked out nicely. Except for the fact that I'm not 'relaxed'. o_O
It also explains why conflict is so toxic to me while it might not be to other 4s with different tritypes.

I might alter the enneagram thing on profiles here to include tritypes later, perhaps! I'd probably make it so that I, for example, would have '459' on my profile, and hovering over it would show '4w5-5w4-9w1' in a tooltip, since that'd be too long to display by itself.

Perhaps some of you will find this interesting.

Testing: 459, 783
5 years ago


◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
Categories: Myers-Briggs Personality
I've been thinking more about the Myers-Briggs thing that I keep using to refer to different concepts... and how the terms 'thinking' and 'feeling' can be misleading!

They don't mean the same as the common usage of the words 'thinking' and 'feeling' in the same way that 'theory' in science doesn't mean the same as it does in common use... But, like 'theory', it's likely that they're being misinterpreted using the common meaning ("evolution is just a theory!", "I'm both a thinker and a feeler because I think a lot but also have emotions!", etc).

I'm hardly claiming to know better than people who specialise in Myers-Briggs or anything, and maybe this just shows my own undeveloped understanding of the system, but I wonder if it would clear anything up if I referred to T as 'objective' and F as 'subjective' instead of 'thinking' and 'feeling'.

T is 'objective' in that it tends to lead to seeing things from a distance, without attachment as such; analysing situations, describing solutions, tending not to become emotionally involved and seeing personal judgements as foolish... It can lead to dry analysis of a situation rather than getting emotionally worked up, or describing what's observed rather than 'empathising' and things like that. Conflict and debate are not difficult because of the ease of remaining relatively detached, but personal attacks and emotional appeals are wrong because they distract from the issue in its 'true form'.

F is 'subjective' in that instead, it's driven by personal 'feelings'; often emotions, but not necessarily. It could be likes and dislikes instead, or things like that. They become attached and make their decisions based on how they or others will personally react to them on an individual level, rather than deciding based on what's best as a whole. They tend to communicate by relating their own experiences to what the speaker's describing. It can lead to "I like it because I like it!" sorts of things rather than "I like it because [various reasons]". Conflict is difficult because they take things to heart as personal attacks even if they're not meant as such. Criticising their ideas is like criticising them, because they have attached themselves to them.

An example of the contrast might be something like:
"I can't decide between A and B", says The Speaker.
Mr Objective replies "A seems to have these benefits, but B has these benefits. They each have these drawbacks. You should choose A."
Miss Subjective replies "oh, I hate it when I have to make hard choices like that! Last time I had to choose between A and B, I did X! Hope you make the choice that makes you feel best in the end!"

(So Mr Objective weighs the pros and cons of each option from a distance, then suggests the 'best' course of action in order to solve the puzzle... while Miss Subjective first has an emotional response, relates a similar experience (a sort of empathy), and then doesn't solve the problem (because subjectivity is individual; there's no one solution) but shows interest in the speaker making a subjective choice on their own which will cause the most emotional satisfaction, rather than the 'best' choice based on the merits of each option.)

Of course, this is all a simplification, and maybe I'm being even more misleading (since I know that everyone is both objective and subjective at different times in the same way that they both think and feel), but the point is that the "Thinking" and "Feeling" things that I've referred to in the past don't mean the same as the common meanings of those words! And stuff!!1

Maybe this was at least slightly enlightening... or maybe it's simply all wrong and someone like M  ScintillaPurpose will tell me so!1

On another note, I finished this:

I hope that it is enjoyable and so on.

It's displayed at the right size this time, and I've also apparently included a much cruder sprite on the right, because this monster - Sparkpup (or maybe I'll call it Embark) - was the first one that I designed, and the first one that I tried to draw a sprite for. It turned out badly, but it's interesting to compare it to the better sprite, and to the vector model!