Irregularity - Asperger's Syndrome

Originally created by SavageWolf
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SavageWolf
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SavageWolf 23 United Kingdom CholericMelancholic INTP 666 402C
Okay, so I have Aspergers (Asperger's?). It's been described as "Not as bad as some people have it" and apparently it's quite minor. Probably.

Anyway, I have no idea how it affects my life, or anything like that. I guess it makes me think logically, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to understand social things or love or whatever in the same way as "normal" people do. I guess I can "fit in" at least? I don't know...

I don't mean to be offensive or anything, but every time I see an autistic person on this site, or in general, they just seem to act "strange" and stuff...

Anyway, this post doesn't go into enough detail as I want it to, but could you please help me. Or something? ;_; I just wish I was normal, and such. ;_;

EDIT: I also have these random surges of energy, which cause me to want to jump around... Am I normal!?
Ratio
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You have no idea what just took place here ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
david s
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david s 24 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1192C
Well, if it's any use I could give you some helpful information on what Asperger's is so that you're not in the dark about it... I hope this helps...

Asperger's, in a nutshell is basically pattern recognition + intelligence + blunt logical thinking - social skills. So, in exaggeration you have a socially bizarre genius.

That being said, there's a lot more to it. Hypersensitivity to light, sound, touch, taste, smell... y'know... everything. Often comes with anxiety and depression like symptoms. Also often accompanied by Obsessive Compulsive Disorder or OCD traits. People with Asperger's are often animalistic, even to the point that many people with Asperger's will growl.(Yes, I do growl myself.)

As for causes,(For both Asperger's and Autism in general.) people are all over the place. Some people were sure it was mercury, others said it was genetic. What is known is that it was rare, and is being diagnosed more and more often. The most likely reason for all of this, in my opinion, is related to testosterone. The facts are that there's a 4-1 or 5-1 ratio of males to females with Asperger's, vastly more males.(Both males and females have testosterone, but it's more abundant in males.) Another fact is that the majority of people born with Asperger's/Autism are born to a mother over 35 years of age. Another fact is that research found increased testosterone in the amniotic fluid of children who later showed signs of Austism spectrum disorders, including Asperger's.( ∞ LINK ∞ )

From what I gather, this all makes perfect sense. Women have been waiting until they're older before they have kids, which means more women over 35 are having kids/more women wait until they're over 35 to have kids, which results in more kids with that factor met to have Autism spectrum disorders. Secondly, as a woman gets older her estrogen levels decrease, which would result in a higher relative level of testosterone, which would likely go on to the child in the womb. Finally, after birth people have noted that Asperger's and Autism spectrum disorders show signs of being an exaggerated male(Testosterone based.) brain. Males tend to be less social and emotionally tactful, but also more honed in their senses, more left-brained and more animalistic/defensive. Finally, that all makes the 4-1 or 5-1 male to female ratio understandable, since it's more of a male disorder.

I guess that's basically it... I hope this information is highly informative! ^_^

P.S. I'm pretty sure the energy surge thing is completely normal, and if it isn't, then I'm guessing it's normal for people with Asperger's or 621 personalities or & blends or something because I get the exact same thing.
SavageWolf
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SavageWolf 23 United Kingdom CholericMelancholic INTP 666 402C
I do know what people are saying Aspergers is, but again, everyone with Aspergers is different. I'm just trying to figure out how it affects ME. What challenges I face, and such.

Also, I don't believe that "Testosterone" thing, and I've explained what I think causes autism here: ∞ Fig Hunter ∞ Peolpe with autism, or at least aspergers, have too much empathy. It's kinda like trying to have a conversation in a loud environment. Anyone that says "aspergers people have no empathy" is either wrong, or trying to manipulate something by using definitions.

Also, when I say "normal", I mean "neurotypical" or "allistic" or whatever. Because I'm like that.
david s
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david s 24 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1192C
Don't be afraid to use the word neurotypical as a derogatory word, I do so all the time.(I'm not saying you did, I'm just saying don't be afraid to do so.)

I'm not sure what you're asking for, then. What will happen to you because of your Asperger's? Chances are you'll like something in particular, and if you act enough like a silly little neurotypical, but still be who you are, then you'll get a good wife who will make up for your lack of social abilities, then you'll most likely get a job as a professor, because universities are the number one source of employment of people with Asperger's, and for good reason. We're tailored for preaching about one subject in particular. What that subject is depends entirely on your interests.

If you decide to indulge your lesser side, chances are high that you'll become a sex criminal. I'm not saying that out of rudeness, it just happens a lot. A study in England *supposedly* found that 1/3 of the people they had incarcerated for sexual crimes were on the Autism Spectrum, which is about 30x as much as a random sample, so it seems rather high. Even without that study, a lot of people with Autism Spectrum Disorders have been arrested for sex crimes, often child molestation or sexual assault by physical gropiness.

Please don't indulge your lesser side. Those who do give the rest of us a bad name.

I actually had heard about that, and I had even done some reading on my own about Swiss researchers finding that there was a chance that increased empathy was occurring in people with AS, but it wasn't something huge yet, so I didn't much consider it.

That being said, I had heard of this, and I thought it was quite possibly true that the increased empathy was true, rather than the commonly held belief that we lack empathy. Don't fool yourself though, the majority of people do not currently have the same belief. Most people still believe that Asperger's and High Functioning Autism have below normal empathy. The concept of high empathy has yet to be commonly accepted.

Empathy overload makes more sense than "inhuman creature because it's different", at least.

However, I couldn't say that a broken amygdala is the cause alone. Furthermore, while your explanation fits, I think mine fits better.

BUT! Rather than thinking your idea is wrong or that mine is right, I decided to go with the third option: What if they're two halves to a whole? In fact, it seems that testosterone regulates something blah blah blah social stuff in the amygdala, according to this thing I found the instant I googled "relationship of testosterone to the amygdala" so here's the link: ∞ LINK ∞ That says something about testosterone having an effect of the amygdala and socializing specifically... perhaps then that proves that neither of our ideas are wrong, but that they are related, and it's possible that they are both causes, or both symptoms, or one caused the other. In fact, I would say that's a very good likelihood, wouldn't you say?

There's a large amount of evidence that I'm right, there's a large amount of evidence that you're right, and there's a good amount of evidence that both ideas are related, thus making it the simplest explanation that adequately explains all phenomena. Sex drive, for instance, could be related to either testosterone or the amygdala, but if it's related to *both*, then it's a strong likelihood that the higher sex drive in people with Asperger's Sydrome is caused by both!

If you mix my water and your fire, then we can make wine!(It's a Fahrenheit 451 reference, I don't mean anything personal by it.)
david s
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david s 24 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1192C
I actually just checked something that I find a little irritating... at this point, there are four(4) pages for Asperger's Syndrome. There's this page, correct grammar and all, there's "Aspergers", there's "Aspergers Syndrom" and there's "Aspergers Syndrome". None of these have less than 3 adherents. This seems like a rather big problem, if you ask me. Between the four(4) of them there are forty(40) adherents. Perhaps it really would be good to find a way to join the pages together? I mean, most of the pages are using incorrect grammar anyway, so it's probably better if this page becomes the dominant one. It already has the most members.

I mean it's just an idea. No one is being *hurt* by this, it's just a little trickier to get all the statistics in and such.
Speren
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Speren 20 United States CholericMelancholic INTP 123C
You know, I've noticed that too! I've tried multiple times to set my 'Aspergers' to this page's 'Asperger's Syndrome', but something may be messed up on this page.
astralfox
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astralfox 23 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INFJ 6w5 13C
I have an Autism spectrum disorder that's very similar to Asperger's Syndrome, but does not have its own separate category thus far in "Irregularities." I would normally not hesitate to create another category, but "NLD" is not an official diagnosis (although it very much should be). I'm not sure where I should place myself...should I place myself here, in the Autism group, or just go through the bother and create the new group? For simplicity's sake, I won't bother to explain this "NLD" nonsense unless asked specifically. Any opinions?
david s
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david s 24 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1192C
That's a good question, actually. Nonverbal Learning Disorder isn't different enough from Asperger's for it to be considered a different diagnosis by most, but it could be considered different in some cases.

Pseudo said that he doesn't want people to put up and diagnosis that isn't "real" and he doesn't want people saying they have something they haven't been diagnosed with. On the other hand, however, this isn't something that's exactly fake, and the whole purpose of this section is to have people put up their irregularities so that people could know a little more about them and find people similar to them. By that logic, simply putting yourself as "Asperger's" would put you with people a little different from you, as well as anyone else with NLD.

Personally, I'd say go for it. Just to be clear though, you should write the whole name out, make sure you capitalize the right letters and spell things right, but I certainly think that it would be in your best interest, and the best interest of the rest of the community, for NLD to be separate from Asperger's/Autism spectrum disorders.