Interest - Fire Emblem

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Brock
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My favorite Fire Emblems are the new one, Awakening, and the one for the GBA, with Lynn. Why? Because Lynn kicks ass, and because Robin is also awesome. I never played Radiant Dawn though, so I can't judge. However, Olim and Marth are pretty cool, I guess. (though shadow dragon was god awful)
Spiritlord
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I'd say Radiant Dawn is certainly the best and is one of my all time favourite games. Path of Radiance isn't much worse, though. I haven't played any others, apart from Shadow Dragon, which is terrible in comparison and does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence.

Here's a list of some people in Radiant Dawn, who you might like to consider using, maybe.

Aran - Okay, he has rather bad base stats and is hard to train because he's in Micaiah's team when they have hard levels. However, if trained, he develops very high strength, skill and defence, making him very effective against other physical units. His speed and resistance are a bit rubbish, though, but as long as you keep him away from mages, he should be fine. He's a lot like an armoured knight, except that he has better movement, can only use lances and has a good skill stat.

Nephenee - She specialises in the stats which Aran fails at, but is bad at the ones he does well. Just to clarify, she has good skill, speed and resistance, but poor strength and defence. I'd say she's better than Aran, as well as being easier to train.

Mia - Some argue that Edward is the game's best swordmaster, but I can never work out why. I tried training him once and he was okay, but nothing special. And then he died. I'd say Mia is a much better choice. She has the usual high skill and speed, as well as reasonable strength. Once trained, she becomes highly lethal and criticals most things. She can potentially cap all of her stats, which, for me, makes her the best swordmaster available.

Rolf - Rolf is an excellent archer. I'd say he's better than Shinon, because of his high strength. Okay, he may be worse at most other things, but his speed and skill are high enough to consistently double-hit targets, rarely miss and get a lot of critical hits and defences aren't really that important to archers, who should be behind other characters anyway. If train him and give him the double bow, he becomes one of the most damaging characters in the game.

Haar - Speaking of characters who do insane amounts of damage, here's Haar! Haar has very high HP, strength, defence and skill. His speed is okay (high enough to double-hit many things anyway), but his resistance is just bad. Once trained, he's more or less invincible against most things, but vulnerable to mages, particularly thunder mages. Despite that, he's a very useful fighter. He is actually stronger than most generals and his great movement makes them seem more than a little bit superfluous.

Jill - That's right - all wyvern riders are brilliant. Jill is more than a bit different to Haar and specialises in speed and resistance, with her strength, skill and defence suffering a bit early on. In time, though, they should improve, but they're unlikely to become as high as Haar's.

Soren - Soren has very high growths in many important stats. He's certainly the best mage in the game, as he can hit hard and double-hit most units, meaning that he can kill most physical units in a single turn, without any help from your other units. He's especially useful later on in the game, when the enemy has many armoured knights that your other units cannot damage much.

All laguz nobles - Let's face it: they have insanely high stats, great movement and are permanently transformed. What's not to like? You'll want at least two in the final chapter; maybe try Caineghis and Naesala. Caineghis is probably the most individually powerful unit in the game and Naesala, while he has worse base stats than the others, has very good growths and can reach insanely high caps for skill and speed. It's a shame you never get any strong dragons.

I think that's all the best characters. I'm willing to bet I've missed out someone important, but this should be enough to think about for now. This comment is long enough at any rate. I've written 3907 characters if you're interested, which you're probably not.
Tyki7125
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Tyki7125 20 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTJ 531 51C
All laguz nobles - Let's face it: they have insanely high stats, great movement and are permanently transformed. What's not to like? You'll want at least two in the final chapter; maybe try Caineghis and Naesala. Caineghis is probably the most individually powerful unit in the game and Naesala, while he has worse base stats than the others, has very good growths and can reach insanely high caps for skill and speed. It's a shame you never get any strong dragons.

You actually use them? I see them as the easy way out. In fact, I never use Laguz (besides Herons) ever. I understand why people so use them, I just feel like it makes the game too easy.

For all Classes, my personal choices would have to be (individually):
Trueblade: Mia
Reaver: Nolan
Senitel: Nephenee
Paladin: Don't make me do this please. THey are all bad >.< MIST!
Saint: Laura
Archsage: Ilyana :3 (Though Soren is better)
Sniper: Shinon
Pegasus Knight: Uh... Sigurn I think. WAIT NO, ELINCIA DUH.
Wyvern Lord: Haar(was that a question?)
General Type Class Name: Gaitre
Rouge: Sothe because forced.
Rafiel.
Spiritlord
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I only normally use Laguz nobles if I have left-over spaces in my final chapter team. Did I really say you should have at least two? I suppose I did. Well, it helps to have them, generally speaking, though I do agree that they make it too easy. Much too easy. That was meant as a general tip for what works well in the game.

I'd say my favourites from each class are:

Trueblade: Mia. I also use Zihark, sometimes.
Reaver: Never really used either. I suppose Boyd is easier to train, but I wouldn't say he's especially good.
Lancer: Probably Nephenee. Aran is also quite good, though.
Paladin: Agreed, they're all rubbish. I'd say Titania isn't quite as bad as some others, but I certainly wouldn't recommend actually using her.
Saint/healer: Whoever happens to be around. I generally use Mist and Micaiah for healing.
Archsage: Soren. If he somehow fails, I'd use Ilyana.
Sniper: Rolf. Much better damage than Shinon puts him in a higher place for me.
Pegasus Knight: Are any of them much good? Elincia has awful stats for a third tier unit, and, like Marcia, isn't around long enough to train. Tanith is sort of acceptable, and Sigrun's just useless.
Dragonlord: Questionable. I'd probably say Haar, but I've not properly used Jill, so it's hard to say.
Marshall: I don't use armoured units, they are awful. Gatrie's okay, I suppose, but, in general, I avoid using them.
Rogue: Sothe may be forced, but he's also rubbish. I'd recommend Volke.
Heron: Reyson. Has more experience starting out, which is useful, as herons train extremely slowly.

Feel free to debate this if you want to.
crazycolorz5
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crazycolorz5 19 United States MelancholicCholeric INTP 5w4 126C
Er, and what about Ena/Gareth? Sorry, but Blood Tide is too good to pass up.
Altemeus
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Altemeus 30 United States PhlegmaticCholeric INTP 9w1 166C
I haven't played much of the series. I have played Path of Radiance a few times over, but I lost my system while in the middle of Radiant Dawn, sadly. I also played bits of The Sacred Stones and Shadow Dragon, but I kept losing interest because the systems seemed weaker without things like knights repositioning after action or custom skills. I figured they'd at least update that system when they re-released Shadow Dragon, but it sure doesn't appear to have been updated any. I do think that characters should have been better balanced, though, as there's always talk of who is great and who is useless in each game. It feels like it shouldn't be that difficult to balance it better. Still a great series though, and I still think the level where Volke is introduced in Path of Radiance is pretty much the best puzzle in just about any game, if you are dedicated enough not to stir the guards. That movement sequence was eerily well perfected.
Tyki7125 said:
Oscar w/o his brothers? Wut? And with Titania? Paladin caps are bad.

Very true, but Oscar is still near impossible to live without thanks to his Earth affinity. I wasn't a fan of the brothers in PoR, but I heard Boyd does reasonably well in RD. If I knew the endgame dynamics better, I'd have a more perfected opinion, but as it stands, I would only keep Oscar between the three because of the Earth affinity. Boyd just didn't have Def to go with his massive HP, so he still could nearly be one-shot if he ran across a Swordmaster with enough speed (as most have). Rolf was a sniper, and I never liked snipers because Sages were often fast enough to be just as evasive, yet able to counter-attack melee as well. Snipers were always only as good as what you can place in front of them, where as Sages at least wouldn't attract much aggro if you have a Bowknight with high D around (I would suggest that). That's just my take, though.
Tyki7125
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Tyki7125 20 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTJ 531 51C
I find it very easy to play through the game without using Oscar. There are plenty of other Earth affinities in the game *coughIkecough* and Titania pretty much outclasses him besides that. Again, Paladin caps are horrible, so most endgame teams don't even use them. In PoR, he does outclass Titania, so he is used much more often.

Boyd in RD is good, and the preferred Reaver solely due to the fact that he is easier to use than Nolan. Nolan does have the Earth affinity, but besides that, the two are pretty even. In PoR he was the only Warrior so I used him :X

Rofl... Oh Rofl. In PoR he was the Sniper of choice due to not being a prepromote and better playtime. In RD, Shinon outclasses him almost always. lolLeonardo. Oh, and Snipers are good in RD due to Marksmen having 2-3 range with everybow (besides crossbows). The Double Bow also has 1-2 range, so counter attacking isn't much of a worry.
Silveroak
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My favorite games are Path of Radience and Radient dawn Solely beacause of the storyline, most of the characters are well writen and the story is good. I never let anyone die because I'm afraid that: 1. I will not be able to recruit someone else and, 2. Because their story wouldn't be told.
My team consists of:
Ike, Michiah, Edward, Heather ( I LOVE Heather), Rolf, Calil, Nolan, Titania,Oscar, Nephenee, Reyson,Mist and Stefan.

Ike because he seems to be able to take about everything but mages at the Endgame. Michiah because as far as mages go she's pretty good, and I have to have her. Edward and Stefan because I love trueblades the evasionand Crit. rates are great. Heather because she can kill most low defense enemies and dodge their attacks. Calil because she kills everyone in one hit at the Endgame.Titania and Oscar because They have great mobility and their stats are OK.Nephenee seems just to be all around good to me. Mist and Reyson aren't great, but for healers/herons they are pretty good.

What are your favorite classes and why mine would be Myrmidon/Trueblade simply because of the evasion stats.
Tyki7125
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Tyki7125 20 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTJ 531 51C
Swordmaster and Sage have always been my favorites, mostly due to me liking the general personalities of those characters.
Silveroak
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Hmm I do like the personalities of myrmidons be cause they are usually either really calm and cold (Stefan) or happy and upbeat (Mia or Edward) but Sage's always seemed a bit ... vacant. I never REALLY liked a mage's personality other than michiah, who was still a bit vacant.
Tyki7125
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Tyki7125 20 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTJ 531 51C
I always liked the mystery behind most of the sages. Also, I love Ilyana's character. Michiah actually doesn't appeal to me though. She's a bit too Mary Sue, though less than Ike.
Silveroak
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Sory I forgot about Ilyana,her personality wasn't one of my favorites but for a Sage it was pretty good.
Tyki7125
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Tyki7125 20 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTJ 531 51C
RD is great, though most of the fans don't like it as much...
My favorite game is also probably RD just because of the mechanics, though the new support system makes me .
I always try my hardest not to kill anyone off... It kinda sucks how bad the Mage's caps are though...
For FE patience really helps.
You can play FE6 with an English patch with a ROM.

For the best story I have to give it to... I really can't chose. FE8 and FE10 have pretty bad stories, so probably FE9 or FE7/6.
PoR data helps, though isn't too big of a difference.

And now... I'm sorry but I have to critisize your team.
Ike-Titania I personaly don't like Titania, though she's ok.
Oscar-Nephenee Oscar w/o his brothers? Wut? And with Titania? Paladin caps are bad.
Shinon-Soren Good
Rhys-Volke lolVolke I like Laura more than Rhys, though she's much harder to level.
Micaiah-Sothe Expected/10
Rafiel-Jill No Haar... Wut?
Nolan-Edward I really want to say something is wrong with these two, but nothing is...
Kurthnaga-Ena (Up to Sephiran)
Nasir-Gareth (Replacing the above)
And Sanaki

*is an Ilyana fanboy*
Emy
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Alright, well, I've beaten Radiant Dawn now! I finally realized that I shouldn't be a miser with all of the bonus experience.....I think I pretty much destroyed all of the usual strategic plans though, for the last part. I got a lot of my useful units killed in the previous chapters, so my last part team ended up being:
Ike-Titania
Oscar-Nephenee
Shinon-Soren
Rhys-Volke
Micaiah-Sothe
Rafiel-Jill
Nolan-Edward
Kurthnaga-Ena (Up to Sephiran)
Nasir-Gareth (Replacing the above)
And Sanaki

And I got Gareth, Kurthnaga, Oscar, and Sothe killed. Among others in the last chapters. I'm such a horrible strategist.

FreedomCaged
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FreedomCaged 24 United States MelancholicCholeric INTP 5w4 23C
Fire Emblem is an amazing seires, I don't think I've seen anyone else ever do turn based stratagey so well. Not only does it have heavily detailed and advanced battle systems, but it still leaves the basic battle concepts easy to understand. Most of the games can be beaten by someone of any skill level, but the games still reward you for playing smart. A technial victory on easy can be achived by almost anyone with enough dedication, but the satisfaction you get from beating that final boss, on hard, with all the characters alive and multiple advanced units is unmatched. Still, even with all that, the thing I have to love most about the Fire Emblem games is the story. If you take the time to get all the characters and have all the extra conversations you can you get to see that each and ever character in each and ever game is a complex multi-demensional person. They each have their own objectives, motivations, backstories, and relationships, and these will even come in to play during battle if you play it right. And even if you aren't intrested in the story at all, then it's easy (if somewhat dissapointing in my opinion) to play through the entire game without it getting in the way, understanding the general story and all the side-stories isn't nessacary to the game, it just enriches it. I'm currently trying to fill all the save slots on my Path of Radiance game (without any character's dieing, I wouldn't have it any other way) with diffrent "teams" for each slot so I can get all of the various side conversations unlocked. When I finally finish with that I'll probably steal my Radiant Dawn back from my brother so I can beat it again with some super-powered characters. I can't belive I've gone so long without beinging on this game, thanks for this topic as a reminder, now I need to go play some Fire Emblem.
Emy
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I liked Radiant Dawn... only I never finished it because I kept dying in the last chapter with Ike's team...Oh yes, and I had an obsession with promoting (certain) people. It's very easy to grind experience from helpless, cornered priests. It's just looong and killed whatever bonus I might have gotten from the time. I had a problem, though, because I liked using my mages and archers more than anybody else. So naturally, I started wasting experience on them so that they could use A-rank items. I wasted even more on Soren because he could use them all the elemental tomes (or could the others, too? I don't remember, but I don't think they could). Anyway, and then I found out Soren could use staves. And then the problem became even bigger. It doesn't help that in that particular file, I lost Mist in the first chapter I could use her and Boyd in the next. I'm a pretty impatient person so maybe Fire Emblem just isn't my cup of tea.....But it's still fun

Sword of Seals looked good, too....Only there's no American export....It's just some of the Tales series, which can be pretty annoying.
Tyki7125
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Tyki7125 20 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTJ 531 51C
Awesome, I started this!

Now let's discuss... what is your favorite game?