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MelancholicPhlegmatic
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Geminienemies
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So, I heard you dislike violins... :P

When I first saw that, I thought you might be a violist, but I was pleasantly surprised to learn you are a cellist (I presume, at least, from your interests). I hope you don't mind my looking through your profile - I was just so distressed after I found out someone disliked my instrument. Can I ask why you dislike the violin? Do you find it annoying and screechy, or was it just a joke similar to viola jokes, or are you perhaps jealous a cellist can't be concertmaster?

Incidentally, cello is my second favorite instrument, and I almost regret not choosing it when I starting learning violin.

Anyway, I'm glad there's another string player on Fighunter.
RavenTheFree
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Oooh, my, yes, you have discovered my interests page! I do not mind at all; if I had minded I would not have put them there, yes? So yes, look on!

There are a few reasons why I dislike your instrument. Do not get me wrong, some of the most beautiful music I've ever hear has come from a violin. It's simply gorgeous. But the people who can play like that are few and far between.

I suppose that I don't really hate violins, simply dislike them, and perhaps there is a half-joke... but part of me truly doesn't like them very much. Mostly, yes, they are screechy. This fades with time, though the better the player you are, generally the higher on your cursed E string you go (I suppose I should know, as a cello you can get quite squeaky as well). I find the sound somewhat abrasive unless played absolutely correctly, but I find myself cringing at the sound of an open E nonetheless.

Surprisingly, I don't mind at all that the concert master is a violinist. Sure, they get all the glory, but cellos are just -so awesome- that it doesn't matter! (That was definitely not biased at all.) No, the second reason why I don't like your instrument is the fact that practically everybody who goes into strings plays it (at least at first). I mean, I was the only cellist at my school when I started playing, and there were -a lot- of people at my school. So I suppose their popularity, in a word, is another reason, since I am rather opposed to the idea of popularity.

Perhaps part of the reason why I don't like them is because I always find myself comparing them to my own instrument, which has such mellow tones; it can portray emotion just as well if not better than violins, and yet it's always stuck playing harmony to the instrument who 'deserves' the more complicated rhythms, because obviously, cellos are not as able because they're big and lunky and tough and downright amazing. Besides, cellos are LOUD. I am a loud person, dang it! I will admit it right here! And cellos can definitely be louder than violins.

Also, I've always found violin to be easier than cellos for one major reason: you have one clef and one clef only. Treble clef is easy to sit in, but when you compare cellos three clefs... well. As you may know, cellos have to learn bass, tenor, and treble clef in order to play some music written for us. (I include this because others, who have not played a string instrument before, might read this.) Also, we have a funky bow hold, which is harder than the violin's, according to some of my teachers). So there! :D (I'm rather used to kidding around with people, do not be offended by any teasing I give. It is meant to be light and playful, though it may not be taken as such. v.v)

Viola jokes are rather rare at my school mostly because we only have eight or so among the two orchestras we have. WE TREASURE THEM. They never get heard, which is kind of sad because they'd be the second instrument I would play if cello somehow got blown off the planet. Well, I would probably play trombone and then viola, but... viola is definitely third best!

Violin and bass, you ask? (Probably not, but I will answer anyway!) I would play violin above a bass only because it's smaller, but I prefer the basses sound to the violins. They too have to learn the different clefs. Also, they can play jazz music, are loud, and have some kick butt pizzicato. So I don't dislike bass at all, but I would prefer to play violins because of the size. Isn't that odd?

I guess this response got to be really long; I'll end here and allow you to make counterpoints, if you wish. But remember that my cello could easily destroy your violin. I would rather be armed with a cello in a fight. :D
Geminienemies
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Well, if it's alright... ^.^

I'm glad you recognize the total and utter superiority of the violin! I agree that some of the most melodious and beautiful music comes from the violin. For some reason, I really can't stand to listen for too long to concertos by most other instruments. Even the cello - my second favorite - is too low sometimes to distinguish the pitches, and the clarity of the music suffers unless it's played by a virtuoso, but I guess the same could be said for violins and screechiness. Virtuosos can really make anything sound good... You're right though - open Es make me cringe every time. I'm sure it's hard to believe there's anything worse than hearing an open E, but there is: hearing an open E come from your own section when you're leading. You look behind you, and everyone's trying to look innocent, and you just want to skewer them with your bow, but you're too nice to do that, so you just ask again for everyone to avoid playing open Es. And no, that's not a personal problem at all!

The only cellist? Well, it's definitely a good thing you're a loud person then, I guess. When I first started, we had 10 violins and 2 violas. A cellist joined 6 months later, but he played the most quietly of all of us, despite playing a larger, more resonant instrument. To this day, he still plays more quietly than every other cellist, and it drives everyone crazy because he can play well, but nobody can hear him. I'm guessing you never had that problem.

It is sad that the cello gets stuck on harmony so often (though perhaps less often than the poor violas), because I love cello ensembles. The cello opening to the William Tell Overture, with all of the interacting cello solos, is one of my reasons for liking the piece so much. Also, I don't know whether you would even listen to metal, but my favorite band is Apocalyptica, a cello quartet. But I think I'm getting off-topic...

I agree that the cello is definitely harder to learn how to play in the beginning. While eventually I had to learn tenor and bass clefs, I can't imagine learning all three in as short a time as cellists have to. Also, the amount of shifting and extensions and weird finger patterns (including the cursed half-position) is more than I would want to endure when I'm learning to play. The bow hold and the inability to use gravity to your advantage when bowing also sounds pretty annoying. But despite all that, I still think violin might be harder overall, or later at least. The clefs and finger patterns are intellectual problems, but the physical problems are the worst. On the violin, I don't know if it's just because my fingers are too big, but when I'm high on the E string - which I'm sure you would love to hear - I put my fourth finger down right next to my third and the pitch is 3 half steps higher. I know thumb position is hard, but honestly I've never found anything as frustrating as losing track of what position I'm in because I've lifted all my fingers up just to play a single high note. So HA! I win! :P

Anyway, my high school orchestra had an amazing and large viola section, so of course we made fun of them every chance we got! The first chair violist was a far better musician than I was, and I offered to let him have my seat multiple times, but we eventually got a duet in one of the pieces our orchestra played. I actually really admire violists, but I would never play the viola, for the simple reason that it's like a small cello, but not as... cellic?

I hope I'm not taking too much space on your comments section, and that non-strings (or maybe even non-musical people) can follow what I'm saying as well... I'm not nearly as good at explaining, I think.

But I think you forgot about the major advantage of one-handed weapons: duel wielding. A single violin may not get me far, but I still have that $30 instrument I got when I was first playing, and the fact that it sounds horrible doesn't diminish its usefulness in a fight!
RavenTheFree
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Ahaha! It's been awhile and you've probably completely forgotten about this. But I feel a sudden wish to argue, and no more perfect a topic as this as I get ready to go to my string ensemble in less than an hour. And finally I get to play first chair (whoopdeedoo)! The seniors probably hate me for it, thought.

I will first respond to your attempt to duel wield your violins. While initially this might seem like a good strategy, it is, in fact, a horrible one. As my cello is several times larger (and it's firetruck red case could easily fit me pretty much entirely inside it), I would easily block from any blows you attempted to throw at me. I would also be able to retrieve my long, heavy end pin from my cello, which, mind you, is extremely sharp because I do not have the standard rubber tip on it. Finally, I have strings that are quite a bit longer than yours, which I could easily use as more effective whips. Not to mention that my bridge would make a much better throwing star...

There is stuff worse than hearing an open E. Harmonics on the violin... especially the ones on the E string... are horrible. My school orchestra is playing a song where both the first and second violins are playing a part and they both go to different harmonics. Needless to say, it is the most wretched sound that has ever reached my ears. Even the first few chairs of violins, which are supposed to be good, struggled to hit the right note, and even when tuned, the harmonic was horrible! I turned around and made a face at my cello-playing friend, and then realized with great horror that my orchestra teacher was standing behind us! (We have a student teacher who was conducting at the time.) Thankfully, she found it quite amusing, as she was a bassist, and I was quite relieved to find that I wasn't going to get scolded for making fun of my classmates.

I must continue to disagree with you about the difficulty of our instruments. While you do make good points about the difficulty of playing notes as you go higher and higher into the violin's stratosphere, the cello can go extremely high too, and the difference between a C# and a D above our A harmonic on our A string is minute, as well. As you go higher and higher, our half-steps become frustratingly close as well.

Keep in mind that the difficulty of our bowing also creates more difficulty in dynamics, as well. If our bow hand isn't 100% perfect, we have trouble doing some of the more unique bowings required for the cello. And as you know (though others might not, it's a string thing), playing closer to the bridge and giving in to gravity is quite a bit easier than playing with your arm all hunched up and your wrist collapsed so that you can play really, really quiet.

So yes! We are more difficult! Prove otherwise! Or not!
kchen
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I have just found you do not like violins. Why? WHYYY? I challenge you, dear sir, to combat, a duel of instruments! I shall take my violin and bow. What weapon do you choose?
RickyTheHedgehog
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Why did you say that the comment associated with my poll that was not optional, was useless?
RavenTheFree
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I didn't feel like you gave enough description of the game for anybody who hadn't heard of it to make an accurate decision about the game. Since, when I clicked on it, I assumed we would be discussing the game, I had hoped for a brief description about the game so I could vote on it (about whether or not I wanted to play it).

In your comment, in fact, you say that "so very few people seem to know about what it is." If you would like more people to play it so you can have a discussion about it, I would think that you would advertise your product so that people would play it. Tell us about the graphics and the plot. When I had clicked the link to your poll, I had thought, "hmm, a platformer. I wonder what it's about, should I play it?" When I read your comment, I was disappointed that I didn't learn anything about it, and honestly, it made me feel less of a desire to play it.

Sorry for the undesirable rating, but in order for it to be a 'useful' comment about your own poll, you'll have to give me a bit of a description first.
RickyTheHedgehog
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I didn't make the poll to talk about the game's specifics. Also, about it being a useless comment about the poll, you have no option to NOT have a comment about it. Therefore, the only reason it is there, is because it made me put it there. I don't expect people to play it as a result, as that isn't possible without actually BUYING an expensive game. The poll was only to show that a lot of the best games out there are completely unknown by most of the world.

I also don't see how my comment asking why you think my comment is useless, has language issues or is unfriendly. If I come off to you as unfriendly or have language issues, by asking a serious question, then there is a problem.
RavenTheFree
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Hmm, it seems like you're begging for ratings now, and that makes me all the more likely to downrate it. Which is why I put the unfriendly in the first one, and not only that, but you seemed to be trying to attack me for voicing my opinion. I said it was 'useless' because you also put it on Twilit's userpage, and it was very short and didn't voice why you thought I should rate it higher at all. Lastly, I downrated it for language because 'was not optional, was useless?' doesn't make sense and isn't grammatically correct. There's my reasoning, and saying that I have a "serious problem" was unnecessary.

You may not have meant it as a place to talk about the game's specifics, but as a reader I feel like it didn't answer a question that it should have been answering. In addition, it failed to elaborate at all about the subject matter, another thing it said on the 'About' page concerning 'U' ratings. Even though the poll forced you to write a comment, wouldn't you rather a nice post so that perhaps you would draw people to read it and take your poll so you can prove your point that "a lot of the best games out there are completely unknown [to] most of the world?" You say on your post on the poll that 'people can use Google for that anyway.' If I've learned one thing from my English class, it's that you should never make your reader do more work than you have to--unless you've convinced them through high praise that it is worth going out and researching through the use of explanation and vivid details about the game. As a reader who is using the FigHunter site, Google is so very far away, and it would take so very much effort to leave that chatroom just to read about this game from some sort of boring blob of text from Wikipedia or something. Eh, I'm lazy, what can I say?

Say I was trying to get someone to learn about Minecraft and put a poll about it on FigHunter (assuming many people here didn't know what Minecraft was). First, I would say that Minecraft is a Role-Playing game that involves you playing as a miner whose goal is to create architectural monuments, destroy monsters, survive, and mostly mine materials. I would tell them about the crafting system (which I thought was fascinating the first time I heard about it), other game mechanics, the types of monsters (thatsssss a niccccce everythingsssss you've got theressssss), and how many FigHunters play multiplayer mode, and such. I just feel like that would make people more likely to go out and look for it, and perhaps, if they were dedicated enough, even go out and read about it themselves. This probably wouldn't take me very long to write, just enough to 'hook' them so they would go and read it and we could discuss it. Didn't you kind of hope, when you made the poll, that you had found someone who had played it or had read about it so you could discuss?

Lastly, I feel as if you are complaining about ratings, and yet this entire conversation could have been done by PM to avoid and unsatisfactory ratings for you or I, and resolved this in a manner where not everybody has to read us arguing back and forth. Returning to the beginning, if you are unhappy with the ratings you recieved, you can always go back and change the post. I'm in full agreement with Twilit here: if you want me to change my 'U' rating on your poll, then go back and change it. But remember, it's just an opinion, and opinions are like eyeballs, everybody (hopefully) has one. I'm entitled to whatever I believe, and simply because I don't agree with you doesn't mean you have rights to come and insult what I say.

Yes, I think that's all. Sorry if this came off as rude.
RickyTheHedgehog
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Oh. I forgot about PMing you about it instead. Oops. I'm an idiot. -_-

Also, yes, I haven't been in a very good mood lately. Sorry. Very sorry. o_o
UndefinedSnail
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Hmm, who linked you to the site? More and more people I recognize are popping up, heh.
RavenTheFree
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It was Psuedo himself; I saw him in chat and he gave the web address. Thanks for welcoming me!

By the way, nice colors! And I like the purple bird... dragon? What exactly is it? It's pretty and such, but I was never exactly sure what it was. I assumed it was a birdie. But the purple and the blue does look nice together, yes.

Hope to see you in chat sometime, you Silly Snail. :)
UndefinedSnail
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I dunno, I think my avatar looks sort of like an eagle or something. But it's open for interpretation, since I made it by modifying a glitched floor tile from a video game. o.o

Anyways, see you around!