Comment History

on 130 Roots

130 Comments

Forum: Is reincarnation possible?
Sunflower
1

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
Actually, yes, "arbitrarily large amount of time" would allow the next moment of perception, and I actually thought that there's no upper limit to the time we can be out of consciousness, as long as that time is finite. However, I suppose that wouldn't preserve the original spopo's intent, since he wanted to prove that "eternally "dying" is entirely possible". Being "not alive" for no matter how long, even if that would be Graham's number of years, doesn't count as "eternally dying" since after that time you are "alive" eventually. ^^"

Infinity is a tricky lady indeed. O.o"
Forum: Is reincarnation possible?
Sunflower
10

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
Quote:
I basically fell to the floor, and I only woke up 4 or 5 minutes later. I did not remember anything of those 5 minutes, as if my conciousness ("Soul", whatever) did not exist for that time frame. Those 4 minutes could have been infinite minutes, and I wouldn't know the difference. Thus, eternally "dying" is entirely possible.

You know, you're soooo severely underestimating infinity here. You seem to think that "alright, I was completely unconscious for 4 or 5 minutes and that time didn't exist for me; so if I was unconscious for 10 years, that time wouldn't exist for me, either; heck, if I was unconscious for eternity, and there still wouldn't be a difference". Except there is, quite a major one.

You see, being unconscious for 4-5 minutes means that these 4-5 minutes after your last "moment of perception" you have another one. Being unconscious for 10 years means you don't have any moment of perception in that timespan, and then after 10th year you finally get your next moment of perception. However, being unconscious for eternity means that there's no next moment of perception, ever; and that's a difference so huge that you can't just leap from "4-5 minutes of nothing" to "eternity of nothing".

Now then, I guess it doesn't imply that reincarnation is possible or that there's no situation when death would mean permanent end. However, I suppose it shows how 4-5 minutes of nothing doesn't break what I call "perception continuity" (kind of a rule that for each moment of perception there's always the next one; somewhat similar the natural numbers axiom, that each natural number has its successor), while the eternity of nothing does break it. And yes, I intuitively consider the "perception continuity" to be the only option that makes sense, because otherwise we get one huge whattheheckidonteven and such at the point where perception ceases. Which probably boils down to "we cannot grasp the concept of not being alive anymore", I guess? ^^"

(on a side note, it's rather interesting how the perception continuity concept in a way makes the time something that always moves forward, and is indeed a core part of the universe/multiverse, rather than some useful abstract our minds developed)

-----

Leaving the perception continuity aside, I suppose that the classic model of reincarnation has its troubles, the most prominent one probably being the varying population. However, I developed a concept that doesn't suffer from this particular flaw.
First of all, there are many, many souls (perhaps even infinity of them, somewhere).
Second, they might interact with each other in various ways.
Third, souls might freely split and join with each other; from their point of view, the two separate souls that used to be one will just have the same memories from that time, kind of like some people might watch the same movie at the same place and time in the cinema (and they experience the same; let's ignore the influence of different seats here), but then they might walk different ways, to watch different movies or something.
Fourth, some specific souls interactions might include one soul being game master/administrator/the universe, taking the role of a "host", and (possibly quite many) others participating in a game, in a ways allowed by the hosting soul.

The hosting soul, having its own rather distinct perception and thought processes, sees itself as a universe with n+1 senses to represent its current state, and enforces execution of some basic rules (physics). In a way, that means that every single bit of matter/energy/whatever else is manifestation of the host, unless otherwise stated. The "otherwise stated" part would mean that some soul actually wants to participate and chooses some part of the universe to take control over it (e.g. a human body, but it might also choose to be a tree, swarm, nondeterministic AI, noise, planet or a fluffy cloud of improbability and quantum mechanics); that would be akin to player starting a game (some sort of MMO, probably). But the parts that aren't controlled by any player are still being processed somehow, just with some default or randomly generated values in place of potential player input. That would also mean that it's perfectly possible to have a soulless human if no player would decide to play as one - that human would just follow some biological algorithm and probably even seem perfectly normal (it's not like NPCs are completely devoid of any personality; they're still played by a person that is the universe).

But yes, if it was indeed some sort of a game, I'd consider it to be quite involving (so involving that I totally feel like I'm the person writing this post right now!!1), perhaps even more than I'd like it to be. Either way, these are (rather chaotically thrown in) parts of reincarnation system I considered. I guess a single forum post might not be enough to exhaust the whole concept, so I won't elaborate even more than that.

Also, keep in mind I don't consider that to be the model that perfectly describes the world and everything else is crud. It's more like "something that might actually work with our world, I suppose, in contrary to classic reincarnation with its population problem, tainted by wish for cosmic justice". ^^"
Userpage: M β Sunflower
Sunflower
2

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
Alright, I guess you people won't see me for a while. So far I was hit by chess pieces about 1678 times (gee, I wonder where all these chess sets came from) and I can't even see who throws these pieces at whom. But of course, who would care about the little girl and a group of other children taking collateral damage while waiting for art class that was supposed to start an hour ago?
Those people have the most exciting and intelligent game of chess to play, art class is irrelevant. Besides, I won't be attending it, because with all that damage I need to stay in hospital, for about a week or so. Great job, that chess battle is truly magnificent.

Oh, and if at the "those people" part you thought something along the lines of "obviously it's because of them [whoever it is]", then it means you probably are guilty as well; bonus probability if you inserted "Pseudo's followers" or "Frances' followers" in [whoever it is] part. Please do reflect on your behavior!

(*clack* ...and there goes 1679th)
Blog: Re: Ban Reversal, Shocking Twists, etc
Sunflower
17

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
It's just so awfully easy, isn't it? From someone I don't like to an opponent, from the opponent to a villain, from the villain to a demon, a diabolic being whose sole purpose in life is to cause misery of others and who must not be trusted under any circumstances; and all that based on horned shadow casted by pretty normal person who happened to have messy hair at that time. Oh, and MANIPULATIONS! Don't forget them! Of course them devils would carry out a carefully planned scheme to turn poor lambs away from light, and of course that gentle and sensitive picture the lambs see is just a carefully crafted illusion; no devil would have such nature, after all, and we already established that they're devils, anyone forgot that?

Are you people still going to dispute whether the elephant is actually a pot or a pillar? Or maybe would you kindly admit that your experiences might be insufficient to serve as a base for any strong judgement and think for a bit why someone else thought that the elephant is actually a wall?
You know, I have nothing against people ignorant in some matters. I even don't blame them when they choose not to learn something, because they aren't that interested and don't find it that useful. However, they have no authority to make any decisive judgement based on their incomplete and quite often simplified knowledge; and they shouldn't act so full of themselves as if they got all the knowledge while having merely glanced at the cover of primer.

Yet you people keep doing that; you happily jump to warm and convenient conclusions, gluing your shoes in mid-air to make sure no one will push you out and stay there, vehemently dismissing anything that could possibly make that conclusion fall apart, using some shady excuses. You seek malice where simple foolishness or human imperfection is more than sufficient to explain people's behavior. You assume the worst so that you can feel comfortable not taking any effort to understand the other party, because it's futile, anyway.
And thus, I've seen so many opinions presented with undue confidence how Pseudo is a manipulative tyrant and how Frances is victimizing herself to fuel the drama (I don't recall hearing both of these from the same person, though, but I didn't have much contact with "Sephiroth" fraction either; how lovely these local politics are, aren't they?); as if they were both playing chess, with us community members as pawns.

I wasn't paying much attention to that conflict, but looking at the behavior of both parties involved I can't really believe all that; their actions were about as skillful as if children were throwing chess pieces at each other. Of course, in such a fierce and intellectual (we're speaking about chess, after all) battle neither of them is interested in such unimportant details like one of them building fancy houses with Lego bricks and the other being quite skilled at playing piano. And then, in the crossfire of that battle...
I took a rook.
Straight in my eye.
IT HURT.
Needless to say, I'm not pleased.
Also, apparently we're now at the stage when the boy reveals that the girl ate your little dog, too. We're still trying to figure out what little dog could that possibly be and if it wasn't meant as her having eight little dogs. Of course having not only one or two, but eight of cute little cuddly puppies would fill everyone with envy, right?
What do you mean by saying that my analogy got out of control? It seems perfectly fine and accurate to me... ^^"

(also, am I not getting tired? I kinda feel like I might not make too much sense recently, or do I? It's like my logic gets more and more fuzzy... and warm... and I want to go to bed... :3)

Uh, well, one more thing. I don't really feel like judging who's more "to blame" here; I can already hear "but he outed her in front of whole chatroom, and did it again with that blog post regarding Ratio" or "she was trying to keep help him understand her issue, but he kept on hurting her" or "she was still fueling that drama long after that drama" or "she and her followers were linking materials that were supposed to be private" reverberating in my head, and it all mixes in some eerie and otherworldly moan, and I don't like it. You both were quite careless with these chess pieces and they probably left bruises on both of you, but I'm not in mood or position to calculate their quantity and area to prove who got more harmed. I don't even know if Frances herself is interested in being unbanned after all that.
I simply want to ask for one thing: please acknowledge her as a girl, rather than a male trying to benefit from posing as the opposite gender; or at least don't assume either way. The premise of Ratio being the true, deceptive nature that fooled everyone to get into AF sure sounds attractive, with very clear villain and such, but things tend to be way more complicated, and given data I got, I really doubt Frances is the mask, rather than Ratio. I guess she might have given reasons to think of her as confrontative or untrustworthy, but she still deserves some respect, or someth*yawn*. As in, treating her as if she is male feels just too unfair to me; understandable, maybe, but still unfair...

Need... to... sl-
*faints* THUD!
Forum: Apparently I'm Transphobic
Sunflower
2

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
Well, yes, this post was less directed at you (since you've made rather apparent that you don't seem to consider Frances to be Objectively Terrible Person™), and more at others; I'm just quite aware that people here can get in rather heated and long arguments, making comment trees grow rapidly in all directions, and it's not uncommon for them to vilify the side(s?) they don't agree with. ^^"
Forum: Apparently I'm Transphobic
Sunflower
8

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
Duuuh, can't you people just get along? It really saddens me to see all that conflict here, where generally-not-bad people bring each other's ugly side and it gets worse. u_u"

Being a sort of person who doesn't see the world in terms of true/false or even right/wrong, but rather helpful/harmful, I think that both Pseudo's and Frances' reactions were somewhat understandable, though one could argue whether they are justifiable and I've got a feeling neither was helpful. Telling someone they're idiot usually won't make them suddenly reflect that indeed, they are; one could argue that statement is "true" but it doesn't really help anyone, and if anything, it's likely to spark some unnecessary conflict.
Similarly, explicit refusal to acknowledge one's perceived identity (no, you can't be from Gryffindor, because you have WAND related to Voldemort's!) or continually bringing up other person's misdeeds from some time ago doesn't seem helpful, either; it just causes more tension and frustration between parties involved, additionally involving bystanders who happen to see it (I'm one of those unfortunate witnesses). Again, those are not actions that can be explained only by people committing them being utter monsters; however, it doesn't make them necessary or beneficial, either. In fact, neither Pseudo nor Frances is an utter monster (or at least I'd like to believe so), and that's what gives people around so much headache, because both of them treated the other party quite ugly at some point, and they had proper reasons to feel hurt.

Over centuries humanity developed some unwritten rule that you don't tell the other person how much you hate them as a greeting, or something. People have learned that sometimes to avoid unnecessary troubles it's better to bite their tongue, and thanks to that it's possible to learn that the person who seemed dislikeable at first turns out to have quite significant positive qualities.

Either way, Frances got banned and hopefully she won't be back. Considering she's compatible with Pseudo about as much as microwave heater is compatible with fridge, it's probably better for *both* of them not to interact with each other. Yes, apparently I'm that sort of silly person who doesn't think Pseudo or Frances is that bad, and they both deserve to live happier lives than right now (even if they have those troublesome personalities, them INFJs and such).

Please refrain from all those heated debates who was more "right" or "wrong", and especially vilifying one side or another; it's not like another argumentative post restating what was said more than enough times will improve that place any bit.

Please? ^^"
Blog: Game Progress!!
Sunflower
3

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
Well, yes, if I had a technical possibility to do so, I would just remove it and not bother with 4 warning posts for each occurrence of malicious link. My mod superpowers are clearly lacking in that area. ;-;
Blog: Game Progress!!
Sunflower
15

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
WARNING! The linked site is registered as malicious and such! I suppose you people shouldn't watch this link if you don't want you or your computer to be severely damaged, or something. ^^"
Sunflower
6

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
WARNING! The linked site is registered as malicious and such! I suppose you people shouldn't watch this link if you don't want you or your computer to be severely damaged, or something. ^^"
Sunflower
5

Notice: Undefined index: FID in /home4/yalort/public_html/charcoal/code/common.php on line 11
WARNING! The linked site is registered as malicious and such! I suppose you people shouldn't watch this link if you don't want you or your computer to be severely damaged, or something. ^^"