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Pseudolonewolf
3 years ago

Game Progress!!

◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
As much as it hurts, I want to try and just get away from all that recent drama... So I want to talk about the games that I'm working on, because that's still apparently the kind of thing that I do.

I've been trying to work on that game called Alora Fane: Creation for a while now, but I'd really been struggling with the plot, as I might have said before. I tried a bunch of things, but nothing worked out quite right. Frustrating!

During this block, my attention turned to a project I started a while back, which was Clarence RPG! The sequel that nobody asked for! Lots of fun, for sure!!

I'm still fond of that concept, since it's all rather silly and everything... When I started on it, I lacked the art skills to adequately represent the characters that had appeared in my mind, and that was one of the main reasons I gave up development on it. However, now that I've improved quite a bit with those art skills, I decided to take another stab at it. Here are the results!



On the left is Clarence, everyone's favourite disgusting, obnoxious oaf. He has no redeeming characteristics, and is a wholly repugnant man. What a hero~!

Beside him is Sally, the woman he married at the end of Clarence's Big Chance, who in this sequel takes that name rather than the other two since it's simply easier to give her a set name. She's obviously way out of Clarence's league, and the plot basically involves her realising this, which makes Clarence want to win her back in much the same way that he won her in the first place!

Next is a mysterious vagrant called Mr Narrator, who follows Clarence around and talks as if he's narrating what's going on.

Then there's a lovely, shy, sensitive dairy farmer, whose delicate problems would be handled by the plot with tender pathos and the utmost subtlety and tact. Or not. He's called Butterbelch!

Beside him is a short woman (not a child!) who's a sort of cross between a crazy cat lady and an obsessive anime fangirl. She insists on calling herself 'kawaiineko83'!

Candi Applez, the next in line, is a sophisticated Business Girl whose favourite things are modesty and subtlety. Clearly.

And right at the end is the MAIN VILLAIN, a completely nice and friendly man named Ernest Love, who unintentionally charms Sally with his phlegmatic charisma. Stopping this TERRIFYING THREAT is the plot of the game!


So yes! Clarence RPG. Though I drew those characters and intended to work on it for a bit (possibly as an app), that's not going to happen immediately because gasp, I actually got sudden inspiration for that Alora Fane: Creation thing's plot! I've now written most of the story's skeleton, and I'm relatively happy with it. It might not be world-shatteringly original or amazing or anything, but at this point I think having something that's 'okay' and just finally getting the game out would be for the best. I need the money, after all!

I'll continue working on that, and since all the assets are already done anyway, actually making it as a game shouldn't take very long at all. I can't say when it might be out, but I'm going to try my best to work hard and fast on it... which I'll be able to do as long as people don't cause me stress and frustration, which is extremely distracting and which destroys my motivation. So please, for the sake of my sanity, don't do that.
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RockDrake24
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RockDrake24 35 United States PhlegmaticMelancholic INTP 9w1 57C
Very nice artwork.

Got a problem with the main "villain," though. Honestly, to me, he doesn't seem much the villain, at all. I mean he UNintentionally charms Sally, which means he isn't trying to charm her in the first place, which means that she is the actual villain in all of this.

Course, that's all viewing the plot with an eye for realism. It does however offer a chance to offer up multiple endings. One, in which Clarence confronts Mr. Love and and learns the truth (about his lack of intention towards Sally) and is completely heartbroken over the fact that he missed that it was his own fault. Two, in which Clarence realizes it and confronts her instead. Three, in which Clarence woos another to get back at her which is quite a bit of douchebaggery, though still quite the possibility (which can be the worst possible ending... he attempts to get back at her and in doing so loses both Sally and the new girl he tries to woo). Or four, in which Clarence strictly tries to win her heart again without any confrontation with anybody.

Course, like I said, this is all viewing it with an eye for realism. Seeing as it's supposed to be over-exaggerated in many of the plot elements, none of what I said really matters.
donutsizzle
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Clarence is an anti-hero. It only makes sense for his antagonist to be an anti-villain.

Yes?
RockDrake24
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RockDrake24 35 United States PhlegmaticMelancholic INTP 9w1 57C
Not really. An anti-hero does not presuppose anti-villains as antagonists, in fact, that is hardly ever the case, as anti-villains are rare in general. Batman is an example (I can only think of two antagonists that could possibly carry the title of anti-villain and that's The Riddler [who, last I heard, is now an anti-hero] and Two-face [who only shows heroic traits, what would class him as an anti-villain, effectively half the time]). Roland of Gilead is also one. The Punisher is another and so is Ghostrider.

Before I go on, I should probably clarify, though, by "villain" I simply mean antagonist. It's odd that I should even have to clarify, because the terms "hero" and "protagonist" have basically become synonymous since the advent of Realist Literature (which isn't even the first time the anti-hero was used, but is, generally, when they became more of the standard)... even more so with Realism crossing into the art form of graphic novels and comics. So having to be so exact is quite odd as it's practically a given that they're interchangeable.

Which takes me back to my original post, Mr. Love isn't even an antagonist. Now, if he actively stole Sally away, I could see it, but since his charms were "unintentional," Sally is the one who actually antagonizes the protagonist... she's the antagonist of the story, not Mr. Love. He's just an innocent bystander.
donutsizzle
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I feel as though that interpretation assumes a sense of entitlement on the part of Clarence. The way I see it, the love interest is the foil. The antagonist then is naturally the obstacle between the protagonist and his prize. The protagonist is without redeeming qualities and the antagonist without damning ones, thus antihero versus antivillain. At least that's my interpretation.
RockDrake24
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RockDrake24 35 United States PhlegmaticMelancholic INTP 9w1 57C
My interpretation makes no such assumption. Not that such an assumption isn't warranted as the plot of the story revolves around Clarence trying to win her over again, and that in and of itself is intrinsic to some level of character-established entitlement.

Again, Mr. Love did not intentionally charm her. He made no active attempts to win her over, which means that the establishment of feelings are solely on Sally's shoulders. The antagonizing factor, then, is Sally's feelings for someone else, feelings which she developed on her own without any active interference from that other person. The story isn't antihero versus antivillain, it's antihero chasing after antiprincess. Mr. Love is nothing more than a prop, easily replaced by any other random person or object or, even, nothing at all, and doing such wouldn't change the course of the story at all... He's completely arbitrary. The obstacle is not Mr. Love, the obstacle is Sally's loss of interest.

To me, it's almost as if he's placed there to be burdened with the blame of the whole situation, when the blame doesn't lie with him, but instead lies with Sally.

Again, Mr. Love isn't the antagonist. There is no actual antagonist. He's just an arbitrary prop, possibly added to take the blame off of Sally (and that transference smells a bit of NGS and misandry).

That being said, Mr. Love can be made nonarbitrary by making him an antagonist in Clarence's mind only. In which case the logical story progression is along the lines of the first two "endings" I detailed above (the last two being possible with or without a prop that Clarence sees as the antagonist). Either way, he still remains what he is... which is NOT the antagonist of the story.
donutsizzle
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I suppose I can concede that Clarence by his very nature is necessarily entwane in internal conflict, and that anything external is really just that internal conflict manifested.

What does NGS mean? Neo-Grade Sexism or something?
RockDrake24
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RockDrake24 35 United States PhlegmaticMelancholic INTP 9w1 57C
Stands for Nice Guy Syndrome. It's most common symptom is viewing a love interest as perfect and incapable of error. Something along the lines of, "Sally wouldn't dare give up on our marriage, so it has to be some other man's fault," and with the discovery of Mr. Love, it becomes, "Of course, Sally would give up on our marriage for him, he's a charmer and that makes him a douchebag that I need to beat" (in the general competitive sense, not the physical fisticuffs sense) despite Mr. Love being unaware of Sally's feelings (he did, after all, unintentionally charm her, which means he had no idea he was actually charming her). Course that's all rather simplified and I can't really give any proper explanation of the entirety of NGS to do it justice, so I'll just link a website about it.

∞ LINK ∞

This has some good articles on the manifestations of NGS... Although some are clearly over-exaggerations (i.e. Why Nice Guys are Boring and Jerks are Interesting). They're all interesting reads however.
Raligon
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Raligon 23 United States SanguinePhlegmatic ENTP 792 240C
I really like the art. Clarence was light and fun. I hope it was anywhere near as enjoyable to make as it was to play, and I'm guessing it was at least less stressful to work on since everything didn't have to be well made to the point of obsession as components of your more serious games often seem to be. Maybe working on something more like Clarence would be wise whenever you're stressed out. A friendly guy like Ernest as the main villain is hilarious. Wish you the best and such.
LadyStardust
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I like how your style of art has developed, Pseudo. The cartoony nature of them really adds weight to that dry, flippant, sarcastic wit of yours.

I can't wait to see what you come up with next!
Generic Scout
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The art work is nice.
-Warning:Critical Remark ahead.
Lonewolf's games seem to be taking a turn that I find unexpected from his previous works. Not saying that in it self is bad however if one came here for Mardek like games then they'll be in for a surprise.

Of course Lonewolf's art is his own, and nothing will ever change that but hey one has to understand why one would not necessarily find the shift pleasant.

I like the new art shift but its so radical its as if there's a whole new cast around.
Aiox82
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Aiox82 35 United States PhlegmaticMelancholic INFJ 2w1 91C
Looks great. Loved the first one. Great platforming with a fun twist. I'm sure an RPG would have the same humor and challenge.

And, the art looks really nice. Great style that I think really complements the mood and attitude of the game.
Mr WinRar
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PSEUDOLONEWOLF YOU ARE HYPOCRITIC RETARD DICK-SUCKING PUSSY YOU CRY EVERYTIME SOMEBODY SAYS SOMTHIN MEAN TO U GROW SOME MUTHERINTERCOURSIN' SMEGGIN' BALLS!!! YOU ARE A PATHETIC, USELESS WORTHLESS EXCUSE FOR A HUMMEN BEIG! YOU ARE SO SELFCENTRED AND STUPID YOU NEED BUILD intercourseING WEBSITES TO FIND YURSELF FRIENDS!!!! ∞ LINK ∞
Sunflower
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WARNING! The linked site is registered as malicious and such! I suppose you people shouldn't watch this link if you don't want you or your computer to be severely damaged, or something. ^^"
AREKKUSU
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AREKKUSU 20 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic INTJ 98C
In general, disrespectful posts like that should just be removed, no one appreciates them I'm sure.
Sunflower
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Well, yes, if I had a technical possibility to do so, I would just remove it and not bother with 4 warning posts for each occurrence of malicious link. My mod superpowers are clearly lacking in that area. ;-;
Generic Scout
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I appreciate all knowledge. I'd like to have known what was originally said.

I hate censorship of any kind.

But There should be a cover for some things I'd just like an option/way to view the original content is all.
darth vader
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Even if this is a joke or troll... That's going way too far.
Swordoath
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Swordoath 18 United States CholericPhlegmatic INFP 4w5 128C
I feel like you should extend the name to 'Clarence RPG! The sequel that nobody asked for!' simply because this caused me to laugh aloud. It was not asked for, but definitely wanted! I eagerly await the release of this game! And Alora Fane, too.
Also, I like the third person's description, Narrator. Is there going to be a self-narrating character in all your games? (Referring to Saul.)
Grigori Federov
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Its been ages since I've come here and I'm glad to see you're doing better in quite a few ways. I never completed Clarence's Big Chance, but this post will likely have me taking another crack at it. Your sense of humour is never fails to impress. Best of luck on Alora Fane.
FakeKraid
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Wow, your character art is just getting better and better.
breadandbutter
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I hope this ends with Clarence making an impromptu and emotional speech expressing his love for his wife, and then transform into literally a better-looking man Beauty and the Beast style. Happy end for everyone. Yep.
donutsizzle
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Or it goes Shrek style and Sally becomes a hideous toad.

Or, perhaps, some other ending? That could happen too, by my estimation. It feels as though there are many possibilities, some of which do not include magical transformations.

But, I'm not being rational here, only emotional.