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Pseudolonewolf
4 years ago

Enneagram Instinctual Variants

◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
Categories: EnneagramPersonality
Unforunately, I've got nothing much to say about Timid Cervid at the moment; nothing new, I mean. So I will say nothing about it at all!1

Instead, I'll be talking about everyone's favourite topic: PERSONALITY TYPES. Gasp. I've never done THAT before, have I?

The enneagram is fairly well integrated into the site at the moment, and adding tritypes recently added a lot of variety and depth to it.
However, there's another aspect of the enneagram that I've not covered at all, but which significantly affects how the types manifest themselves. It's called Instinctual Variants.

There are three 'instinctual variants', which are called Sexual (Sx), Social (So), and Self-Preservation (Sp).
We all have all three of these instincts, but to varying degrees; to show your preference, you'd list your first two and omit the third. SxSo, for example, would mean that the Sexual instinct was dominant, the Social instinct was important too, but the Self Preservation instinct was faint.

The 'Sexual' instinct doesn't deal with sex as such. It relates to intimacy; to deep connections, and to 'intensity' of various kinds as well.

The 'Social' instinct doesn't relate to socialising either; instead, it relates to concerns like how others will think of you, how you fit on the social ladder, and so on. Social types generally want to be admired by others; they may find the idea of being a celebrity appealing.

The 'Self Preservation' instinct deals with protecting yourself and ensuring your personal comfort; it can lead to obsessing over whether or not you have a healthy home life and adequate resources, or it can lead to things like hiding personal information to ensure your safety.

Each of these variants manifests very differently for each type, though!
You can read about them in detail on this handy site: ∞ LINK ∞

For example, I personally am a type 4 (for this, you only use the FIRST number of your, uh, six from your tritype; the dominant number of your dominant enneatype), and my instinctual variants are apparently Sexual and Social.

Isn't that totally what you were expecting?!? o_O

I'm certainly not any kind of SEX HOUND who goes around seeking out promiscuous pleasures of the flesh, but intimate bonds are what I aim for, and I couldn't live without a deep loving relationship with another. I am not interested in 'shallow' friendships; acquaintances.
I've mentioned before that I have a strong sense of a 'social ladder', and while I can talk to members of this site, I'm terrified of joining others in case I'm not accepted, and I wouldn't seek out other game developers because I feel I have no right to talk to them. Negotiating sponsorship deals for my games is very difficult, because I feel that the sponsor is 'above' me on the ladder, and as such I can't talk to them comfortably at all.
I'm not remotely tough, though, and it bothers me when people hide things about themselves that prevent me from knowing more about them. I'm physically dependent on others to survive, and roll my eyes at people who prepare for the zombie apocalypse rather than thinking 'hmm, maybe I should do that'.

This description of the Sx Type 4 (which it calls the 'Intimate' rather than 'Sexual') describes me very well indeed: ∞ LINK ∞

It also explains a whole lot of my current problems, anxieties, and in many ways my sluggish recent progress with game development. I can't function without love!

But what about you? If you know your enneatype, perhaps you'd be interested in reading about the three variants of it on that site and choosing two of them.
You might learn more about yourself!

I'm thinking of adding them as *yet another* Setting thing to further clutter up userpages, because they do make a lot of difference. I can't relate to Self-Preservation 4s at all, for example, and would find them rather uncomfortable to know, as it apparently manifests as the *opposite* of self-preserving; as recklessness, volatility, and so on.

I may add them as a feature RIGHT NOW in fact!

Testing: SoSx SpSx SoSp
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Pseudolonewolf
4 years ago

Enneagram Tritype (EDIT!)

◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
Categories: EnneagramPersonality
EDIT: It's now possible to change your enneagram type to a tritype from the Settings page!



I've been learning more about the enneagram personality system recently!
It's been bothering me a bit how even people who are INFJ 4w5 don't seem particularly like me... and I wondered why that might be. Life experiences, I assumed, though there's also an aspect to the enneagram that I just learned about that might go a long way towards explaining things like that.

The enneagram is divided into three sections: the 'heart' (2, 3 and 4), 'mind' (5, 6 and 7) and 'guts' (8, 9 and 1).

Apparently we don't have just one enneagram type; we have three, one from each of those sections, ranked in order of their influence over us. This is called the 'tritype'.

In trying to decide on my own tritype, I knew that 2, 3, 7, and especially 8 definitely wouldn't be in there.
I wondered about 6 because I can relate to its anxiety... but I'm just not the kind of loyal protector guardian sort of thing that many 6s are, nor am I guarded and concerned about security. So maybe that wouldn't go in there anywhere.
That left me with 4, 5, 9 and 1. The 1 and 9 had to go together because they're both guts types, so that'd be 9w1 or 1w9; I am a perfectionist, but I value peace more than I value 'perfection' in the type 1 sense, so I felt 9w1 would fit best. I know I'm 4w5, so that'd be at the front, but I couldn't decide whether the order would be 459 or 495...

So I looked for and did this test: ∞ LINK ∞

It gave me this result:

Quote:
You are a Type 4 with a 5 wing: "The Bohemian"

Your trifix is 4w5, 5w4, 9w1.

In enneagram theory, you have one type for how you relate to the world (either 8, 9, or 1), one type for how you think (5, 6, 7) and one type for how you see yourself (2, 3, 4.) Your tri-fix contains one number from each of these triads. They are listed in the order of how strongly they present in your personality.

Your core type (your strongest type) is Type 4 with a 5 wing: Type Four individuals are intensely emotionally aware, and often retreat to their rich inner world of concepts and ideas. They are the most artistic type in the Enneagram and driven to create their own, unique identity. Type Fours value authenticity highly and express themselves whenever they can. They are one of the most individualistic types in the Enneagram. Type Fours, when in a state of growth, become principled like Type Ones. When stressed, Type Fours can become clingy like an unhealthy Type Two. You are a Type Four with a Five wing, which means that the individualist nature of a Four combines with the cerebral nature of a Five to make you one of the most creative types in the Enneagram.

Your second type (your next strongest type) is Type 5 with a 4 wing: Type Five individuals are cerebral, intelligent, and complex. Type Five is often called the Investigator type, because they are constantly trying to learn more about the world. To a Five, knowledge is power, and knowing more about the world around them makes the world a safer place. It’s common for a Five to withdraw into their own thoughts and ruminate on intricate ideas and concepts. Type Fives, when they are in a growth state, become self-confident and authoritative like a Type Eight. When they are stressed, Type Fives become scattered like an unhealthy Type Seven. You are a Type Five with a Four wing, which means that the cerebral nature of Type Five combines with the creative nature of a Type Four. For this reason, you are likely to challenge established ideas with new and fresh concepts.

Your third type (the least-used of the three) is Type 9 with a 1 wing: Nines are receptive, easygoing, and loveable. Out of all the types in the Enneagram, they have a special ability to get along with others. For this reason, they’re often skilled mediators, resolving conflicts both within themselves and among others. Nines value peace, especially inner peace, very highly. When in a state of growth, Nines become energetic and driven like Type Threes. When stressed, Nines become anxious like an unhealthy Type Six. You are a Type Nine with a One wing, which means that the harmonious traits of the Type Nine merge with the idealistic nature of the Type One. You have an idealized view of the world, and your drive toward harmony is one way to fulfill that dream.

Some words that describe you: relaxed, peaceful, harmonious, creative, unique, authentic, emotional, intelligent, cerebral, questioning.


So that worked out nicely. Except for the fact that I'm not 'relaxed'. o_O
It also explains why conflict is so toxic to me while it might not be to other 4s with different tritypes.

I might alter the enneagram thing on profiles here to include tritypes later, perhaps! I'd probably make it so that I, for example, would have '459' on my profile, and hovering over it would show '4w5-5w4-9w1' in a tooltip, since that'd be too long to display by itself.

Perhaps some of you will find this interesting.

Testing: 459, 783
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Pseudolonewolf
5 years ago

The Trees and the Forest

◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
Categories: EnneagramPersonality
I am interested in personality models. Had you noticed?!?

Anyway, apparently I am so interested in them that I'm always eager to share what I know and understand with others... but it's difficult, especially when I write a long post like the one about the 9 Enneagram types, and barely anyone shows signs of having read it, instead leaving comments that say "a test said I was X but I think I might be Y anyway because I have [specific trait of Y]! But I also have [trait of Z], so the system is too limited to contain my wondrous versatility!"

I've tried to reply to a lot of these comments to explain the concepts to the best of my ability, to guide people in the right direction towards finding their types and so on... but I find myself repeating the same things over and over, so I felt that I should include them in a blog post so then I don't have to keep repeating myself.

The main, most important concept behind using any personality system is that you need to learn how to think 'generally'. It's almost an art form in itself, perhaps, and my practised ability to think in this way leads to me getting consistent results on personality tests, and being able to understand concepts like the Enneagram on an intuitive level very quickly.

A good metaphor that I think explains this concept is how many people, when looking at the descriptions of personality types, see the trees and not the forest.

What I mean by that is that they focus on specific traits... which is missing the point, because personality types aren't about traits. They're about patterns, a deep 'essence' of sorts that exists at the core of any type and which merely manifests as traits.
The traits are emergent in this way, and as such they're not mutually exclusive; any type could produce any trait, I'd say, but for different underlying reasons.

It's like how birds and bats and insects all fly, but their mechanics are very different. The result is the same - they can move in any direction through the air in order to travel from one place to another - but they all evolved separately and the wings of one aren't like the wings of the others.
If you were to see an animal, and to try to explain it to someone by saying that it was 'flying', would they be right to come to the conclusion that it MUST be a bat, because it flies? Of course not; it could be any number of things, and you'd need to look at the whole rather than this specific trait to find out what it is.

It's like how type 2 from the Enneagram 'helps people'. This one seemed to come up a few times; people thought they were 2s because they enjoy helping people.
2s do naturally help people, but to say that by itself is useless oversimplification, and you can't say that someone is a 2 simply because they like helping in the same way that you can't say that a creature is a bird because it flies.
The manner in which 2s 'help' is assertive and coloured by entitlement and the fear of being worthless - particularly in 'unhealthy' individuals (a concept I'll get to in a minute) - whereas other types - ANY type - could be helpful either out of duty, loyalty, empathy, expectation, morals, upbringing, or any number of varied factors.
The result is the same - the trait 'helps people' - but the fundamental base and motivation - the part that actually matters when determining type - is different in each case.

The point I'm trying to make is that when you read about a personality type, what you should do is see each trait as a 'dot', yes... but then connect the dots in your mind and see the overall image that they form. It's like connecting jigsaw pieces to form one whole that represents that type. A jigsaw of the ocean and one of the sky will both have blue pieces, and many of them, but it's only really when they're assembled into the whole that it's clear what they are. Looking at the pieces in isolation is misleading and generally useless.

Is this making any sense...?!?

Another thing I want to say about the Enneagram in particular is that each type seems to have various levels of 'health' that alters their manifestation significantly... Some people are a lot more mentally 'healthy' than others.
For example, a very unhealthy 2 might become manipulative and downright abusive, while a very healthy 2 would be truly selfless and an expert at making others happy. Entirely different traits that manifest from the same core at different levels of health.
(An abusive boyfriend who threatens to commit suicide because his suffering girlfriend doesn't tell him she loves him often enough could be an extremely unhealthy 2, while a little old woman who opens her house for feeding beggars off the street and devotes all her time to that while asking nothing in return might be a very healthy 2. But only maybe; both of these things could arise from entirely different types as well!)

I'd like to talk about each of these levels for each type in detail at some point... but this thing is long enough as it is at the moment.
I have a tendency to focus on the negative, neurotic, unhealthy aspects of each type in my descriptions, I'm afraid; this is surely partly due to being far from mentally healthy myself, but also because as a 4, I am drawn to dwelling in melancholy, to focusing on the negatives, and to being very 'honest' with feelings and weaknesses. I relate to others through weakness, so I suppose I write in a way that would be convincing and relatable to myself... which is regrettably not as useful for everyone. A shame!

Anyway, I just wanted to make this point since I seem to be trying to make it over and over in comments to individuals, and thought it'd be useful to have one thing to link to rather than spending loads of time repeating myself.

If you have read this all the way through and you want to leave a comment, please tell me that you've read it, otherwise I'll assume that you haven't and will be rather cross at you!!1!1

I do wonder whether people write replies without actually reading the thing they're commenting on. Hmm.
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