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6 years ago


◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
I'm still working on getting Miasmon ready for beta testing - there's still quite a bit left to do - and I have been reading all the comments on the other two news posts... But for now, I want to talk about something completely unrelated to that.

This is something that I wrote about elsewhere recently, so I'll just copy and paste and edit what I wrote there:

I've been fond of the Temperaments for ages, as you can tell from the fact that I use them on this site.
The main 'competitor' to this concept was the 'Myers-Briggs Type Indicator', or whatever it's called, which it seems that every intellectual teenager worth their salt knows about.
I never did though, and I avoided it due to stubborn preference for the temperaments. I knew vaguely about it, but never in detail.

However, I've been reading about it recently, finding out my type and all that, and it's been quite interesting! I feel I've been missing out by incredulously dismissing it out of ignorance.

It turns out that my type is most likely INFJ... which happens to be the rarest type, especially amongst men (about 0.5% of all men), though it's more common in women (2-3%).
I suppose that might go a long way towards explaining why I've never felt comfortable around males and always admired typical female traits, like gentleness over roughness, emotional understanding over swaggering conflict, and so on...
It also explains why I've always felt that I have a strong sense of empathy... and why I struggle to find people on the same wavelength as myself (if it's so rare).

Since I'm still new to the concept and have a lot of reading left to do, I might change my mind about my type later, but for now, this appears to be the best fit.

I'm curious about whether anyone else knows their Myers-Briggs type thing! I imagine that at least some of you will.

If not, there's a test that you can do, though it shouldn't be relied upon; it only gives you an idea of your type, and it would require more reading about them in detail to really settle on one.
It's here: ∞ LINK ∞

There are loads of websites that describe them individually in some detail, such as this poorly-made one, for example: ∞ LINK ∞

I also want to say something about personality types in general, because it frustrates me how commonly I hear the same argument time and time again that leads people to reject these concepts incredulously...

"Humans are too complex to be typed so simply like this, therefore these systems are rubbish. You can't put a label on me. I'm too unique."

That's the gist of it.
It seems to assume that these personality types attempt to describe every tiny little detail about a person, from their favourite type of mushroom to their mother's maiden name.
But they don't! They only group you as part of a *collection*, and don't try to explain your every aspect.

Personalities are multi-faceted, and everyone's very different; there's no denying that. Personality types merely try to describe one (or more) facets; not the whole thing.
It's like how being 'male' or 'female' doesn't describe everything about you, but it *does* put you into a distinct group with other people who fall under the same label. Two women may have similar anatomy, which makes them both 'female', but that doesn't mean that they're anything alike.
Similarly, two people might both be INFJ, but that doesn't mean they're clones either. One might be male, the other female. One might be into rap and skateboarding, the other Classical and stamp collecting. Just because they have one shared facet doesn't mean that their uniqueness is reduced in any way.

It's similar to how pieces of music can be classed under genre labels, like 'rock' or 'jazz' or 'classical'.
Not every piece of rock music is identical, but if you go to a 'rock concert', you'll have a good idea of what to expect, and if someone says they like 'rock music', it conveys a great deal of information succinctly without reducing the uniqueness of each piece of music that they like.

It's also similar to how animals can be classed as 'mammals' or 'canines' or even 'dogs', but that doesn't mean that every dog is identical to every other dog; they just have enough in common to be classed under the same label.
These labels exist to communicate large amounts of information in a single word, and for that purpose, they're extremely useful.
Imagine if we had no words for species, or even whole classes of animals... Talking about out pets would become ridiculous!

A lot of people seem to feel that their desire for 'uniqueness' comes above the fascinating usefulness of being classified under certain personality types... which I feel is a shame, because understanding personality types seems to me like a great way to learn how to treat others right, to understand that they have different emotional needs to you, and to explain their behaviour which you might disagree with because it's different to yours. (For example, extroverts telling introverts to 'get out more' is *not* understanding that they don't have the same needs as themselves.)
Understanding that we're not all working from the same base, and having ideas of how best to treat those who are different to us, seems like a great way to achieve peace and understanding to me.

Saying "it's all rubbish because I'm too special!!!" throws all that out the window for the sake of ego though, I think...

But anyway!! o_O

I am indeed curious about other peoples' types!

Another thing that I'd like to mention is that the test and Myers-Briggs are not one and the same. To truly understand which type you are, you'd really have to read about all of them in detail and choose the best fit for yourself. But not everyone has the time to understand it all on a deep, conceptual level, so the test merely serves as a convenient, accessible shortcut.
It shouldn't be relied upon as accurate, but just because the test isn't doesn't mean that the whole Myers-Briggs concept falls apart.

Anyway, I'd like to hear your four-letter type things, since I'm really curious about how they compare to peoples' temperaments...
I think that the two attempt to describe different facets of the personality, so some people might have the same MBTI things but different temperaments, or vice versa, so I'm curious about whether that'll hold true.

I'm also wondering whether to add MBTI things to profiles here alongside temperaments... but I won't spend my time doing that now or anything, when I need to be working on Miasmon.

I'm curious about whether you think your type is accurate and whether you've read about it in detail, too, as well as maybe what you think of the system as a whole, rather than just hearing "ISTJ FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER" or something.
The four-letter things are more interesting than quoting the four percentages that you get.
6 years ago

That introvert site thing

◊ Posted by A β Pseudolonewolf
Categories: Questions
I've essentially finished that introvert site thing now.

I'm not going to release a link to it yet, but I am curious about whether anyone here would be interested in it if I did.

Remember, it is a site for 'lonely introverts', a place to share thoughts and to meet other introverts. It's particularly useful for those who struggle to find friends because they don't really go to the sorts of places that people normally meet others, or those that do have friends but don't really 'connect' with them, and would like to meet others on a similar wavelength to themselves, and stuff.

Or at the very least, it's just a place where introverted people can voice their thoughts and get feedback about them, which might be important to a lot of people, since even people who don't want to 'go out' and 'socialise' all that much still might crave hearing what others would think of their thoughts, or to have a place where they can receive supportive feedback when voicing what's on their mind.

It is NOT a place where extroverts can join to 'help' or 'give advice' to the introverts there. That'd be sort of like a married person joining a dating site to 'give tips' to the people there. Or a preacher joining an atheist site to tell them how great God is. Or something.

Oh, and you have to be at least 16 to join.

So, is anyone interested...? I may actually send out PMs containing the link to people who speak up here, letting them in before anyone else (this is not a guarantee though; I may send the link to *some* people, but not necessarily everyone).