Interest - LGBTQ rights

Originally created by Joshie
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david s
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david s 25 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1193C
My only problem is that there's no real... er... *certainty* to the term. I support the rights fully, but I'm confused on what the name is/will be.

Let's put it this way, when I first heard of it, it was the LGB community. I'm expecting it to become LGBTTTQAAHDM at some point.(No, that wasn't me going crazy on the keyboard. It all stood for something. Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Transgender, Transvestite, Queer, Asexual, Anti-sexual, Hermaphrodite, Drag, Metrosexual.) Might it not be wise to simply say "ABS", Anything But Straight?

My only confusion, however, is on the name, and nothing more. I fully support the rights of the individuals of these communities, and I'm rather upset that people are still being... how you say... "thick-headed" about this stuff.

I'm straight, but I have no reason to restrict the rights of anyone else if they aren't like me, and I have the duty to make sure they have equal rights.
Wanderer
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β Wanderer 24 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 512 288C
It is terribly named, yes, but 'anything but straight' isn't appropriate either. Firstly, that's just like saying "normal" and "not normal" - it's got quite a vile connotation of segregation between ordinary and flawed. Secondly, many people on the list are/can be both straight and sexually deviant in their own way, such as transgendered people, who can be of any sexuality.

The issue as I see it is that in an effort to promote this image within the LGBT community of tolerance and open-mindedness, different minority groups have sort of been hastily shuffled together under the same wing as a symbol of unity, leading to what you've described - we pretty much take any deviant now. O.o As far as minorities go, you have race, religion, disability, and "other", where "other" is quickly what LGBT is becoming - the place to put anybody who doesn't fit anywhere else.
david s
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david s 25 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1193C
If you're concerned about the segregation, then shouldn't the group become "Anything"? I mean, "We are X and proud" is saying "We are different from you, and we want to be noted as being different", which is pro-segregation. Personally, I do believe people should take pride in their differences.

I believe the motto of all human kind should be "You and I are different, and for that, I am glad.". No two people are alike, and we should all be proud of our individual differences, rather than our group differences.
Wanderer
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β Wanderer 24 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 512 288C
I agree that things like pride festivals are absolutely wrong - they encourage the very segregation that they claim to vehemently oppose. But they're often a necessary evil in that in many countries, they're the only exposure the LGBT community have.
david s
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david s 25 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1193C
I'm not saying the festivals are wrong, I'm saying it's wrong to have them singled out, I think there should be *individual pride* days, where we *all* celebrate what makes us unique and different. Everyone is unique, and equally human.
Wanderer
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β Wanderer 24 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 512 288C
I suppose that we'll just have to disagree on this. I don't believe that difference by itself is something that I would consider worthy of celebration. I suppose that it's good that we're not all clones, but difference is very much double-edged - a rapist is rather different to me, does that become worthy of celebration? Indeed, pride festivals tend to be rather an alienation - they exaggerate the difference in a way that can negatively enhance any stereotypes and encourage segregation.
Grenburr
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My apoligies. I'm familiar with the first four letters, but what does the "Q" stand for? :o
Magi
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'Queer' or 'questioning'. It refers to anyone that usually doesn't go by lesbian, gay, bisexual or transsexual, but shares an indistinct similarity to either of them.
Grenburr
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Oh, how intriguing. Thank you for explaining, kind sir!! :D