Interest - Fox News

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Perturbed Crow
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Fun fact: Fox News cannot air in Canada, because in Canada there is a law that prohibits news stations from making things up. Or so I heard.
david s
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david s 24 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1192C
I just looked this up, and it seems you're right. In Canada, Fox News is banned because it is illegal for any broadcaster to broadcast incorrect news. I'm sure this would also apply to "The Colbert Report" and "The Daily Show", but those two were never meant to be serious, so that leads me to believe Faux News has a bit of a problem...
Nepene
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Inaccurate.

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The CRTC rejected a CCTA application to bring Fox to Canada last November because Fox News U.S. and Winnipeg-based Global Television were planning to create Fox News Canada, a combination of U.S. and Canadian news.

However, in March, a Fox U.S. executive said there were no plans to create the combined channel.

And back in 2004

The conservative-leaning Fox News Channel will soon be coming to Canadian digital television channels.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) approved an application Thursday to bring the Fox News Channel, one of the highest-rated news channels in the United States, onto Canadian digital airwaves.
However, in its decision, the CRTC said Fox News offers little Canadian coverage and is not "partially or totally competitive with any Canadian pay or specialty service." It added that the channel would "significantly boost digital penetration in Canada" and increase the availability of digital services in the country.

Don't trust random sites online. They're well known for lying about the news. Only trust reliable news articles by mainstream newspapers and news organisations.
david s
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david s 24 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1192C
So let me get this straight: I should only trust "trustworthy news stations" on which news stations are trustworthy? So what you're saying is I should believe Fox News isn't lying because it says it isn't lying? That makes no sense.

By the way, that was 2004, these are 2011: ∞ LINK ∞ ∞ LINK ∞ The Canadians seem to have changed their minds about Fox there. I just wanted you to know that.

I'm sure you'll say that I shouldn't just haphazardly trust websites I find on the internet though, so to make sure that I prove to you that I was listening you, I will ignore the information on the website you found.(Think more carefully before you ask me to ignore that.)

The facts remain, however. Fox News has presented pseudo-facts for years, even to the point where it says contradicting things. The amount of bias on Fox is recognized even by non-American-politics-biased news stations from other countries, such as England and Germany. Foxs News repeatedly shows a right-wing bias.

I've also noticed you, Nepene, tend to have a right-wing bias. I would be willing to bet that you would not have defended NPR at all if that station was brought into question, would you? NPR is called biased by Fox and other groups owned by Rupert Murdoch, and yet other third-party groups say it isn't biased. I think I know what they mean though... NPR present facts, the truth, and the truth is liberal. In order to say something that isn't liberal, you often(Not always.) have to lie...

I'm willing to admit that I have a strong liberal bias, and I am in fact quite proud of that, but I'm simply saying you are incorrect with this. You would have been correct at one time, say, in 2004, but it seems that things have recently changed with Canada and it's acceptance of Faux News.
Nepene
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No, you shouldn't believe gossip rags like the huffington post when they say things. If you go back through the sources, there are no actual officials saying fox news is banned. Some court made a ruling that you could prevent false news from being on the air and then a left wing source, readersupported news, founded after a democrat convention to stop corporate controlled media, said that this would prevent fox from being able to run because another article made a claim that some random person was starting a fox news style news agency. Other left wing sources then parroted this claim. There's no actual evidence that fox news isn't broadcasted in canada, and indeed it is broadcasted, and has been for several years. Facts need proof. Say, a reference to a canadian regulator saying fox news was banned because it lied.

You should trust reliable news sources, like the one I linked to.

Anyway, while all this talk of bias is fun, left wing gossip rags which make a living by selling rumour, lies, and celeb stuff aren't authoritative sources on the way the world is.

If you said NPR was banned in Cananda, I would also happily defend it. Because it isn't. Truth doesn't have a liberal bias, the truth is the truth.

I'll also note- the fox news north that the article said was banned because you can't have lies is now on the air. Everything your gossip rag said was false.

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david s
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david s 24 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1192C
*My* gossip rag? How am I to know your link is true, and mine is false, sir? Give me one reason to think your 1 link is right and my 2 links are wrong? I'm just saying, I don't think you have a right to simply say "I'm right and you're wrong".

I admit you could be right on this, but I would personally not say it can be known unless one of us currently watches Canadian television and/or listens to Canadian radio(I don't, do you?) and if it does or does not air, then we would likely have to have a discussion with a Canadian politician to clear up the misunderstanding, since clearly one of us is wrong. To know for certain what has happened, we would have to ask a first hand source.

As for your criticism of The Huffington Post, I must say that although it quite possibly is based on rumours, I can't even say that much for the fear-based network that is Fox News. Fox tends to be rather... emotional, as opposed to rational.

Still, I'd rather not get into a long-winded political argument about how my country is an "oligarhy".

P.S., either your link failed, or it was spam, and although you and I don't get along, I don't think you're a spammer...
Nepene
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You can tell if something is a gossip rag by how much attention it gives to celebs. You have things like huffington's "Are We Ready For A Naked Nancy?" while for CBC Canada you have "Attawapiskat leader threatens civil disobedience ". Trusting huffington post would be like trusting some random gossipy article on daily mail. They have low quality reporters and a lot of opinion pieces, as your one obviously was. You can also tell by the lack of any quotes of actual people.

If fox news had been banned, it would be big news. We'd hear about it on places such as fox news. Google turns up nothing. We shouldn't assume it has been banned because some gossipy rags said so. The article which made up the claim based it on Sun TV being banned due to the Canada ban on lies (therefore fox news must be banned, based on logic not on evidence), something which is clearly false since Sun TV shows.

Maybe the link is subscriber only? Anyway, this should be ok.

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Notice the use of quotes, descriptions of actual things that have happened, and other indicators of a reliable newspapers.