Interest - Atheism

Originally created by A β Pseudolonewolf
6 years ago.

on 2 Roots

13 Comments

Kowasaci
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Kowasaci 16 Romania MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 344 24C
I don't hate atheism, I hate anti-theism.
(Anti-theism=Hurr durr God's nat reel u so stopped richard dukins lelellelelellelelelelle=/=atheism)


but this page is close enough to that
Corelis
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Why not just dislike this instead? ∞ Fig Hunter ∞

And I can't help but wonder how this page is close to anti-theism if you acknowledge atheism as a separate viewpoint entirely and this page is called simply "atheism".
david s
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david s 24 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1192C
He prally has friends who call themselves atheists when they're really anti-theists. I know I do. They know who they are. >_>
Kowasaci
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Kowasaci 16 Romania MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 344 24C
Mostly because people that claim themselves to be "atheists" are people that spout "hurr durr god's not reel look at me fedore em smert."

And I am 100% sure that people that like this page aren't actually atheists, but anti-thesits.

It's not like my vote makes it have more dislikes so I don't see why I should cancel it.
Corelis
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If there is the option of disliking anti-theism and someone dislikes atheism too/instead, it gives the impression that the person has a distaste for atheism and not just anti-theism. It doesn't matter if there are people who should identify themselves as anti-theists when they identify as atheists - having atheism in your dislikes signals the world that you dislike atheism, not anti-theism.

So, people might come to a wrong conclusion about your attitudes for a good reason. That might be a reason to change it.

It isn't like it really matters if you remove it from your dislikes or not. Some people just feel like questioning any questionable statements they see to pass the time. Speaking of which, every paragraph of that comment of yours happens to be wrong, unless I charitably interpret "people" as "some people" and "makes it have more dislikes" as "increases its dislikes by a significant amount"~

But it isn't like that matters, either.
Kowasaci
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Kowasaci 16 Romania MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 344 24C
You are right. This pretty much happened when I saw Pseudo's profile.

Yep, Changing it, I want to stop being a hypocrite.
timtoborne
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timtoborne 19 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic ENTP 512 186C
While I don't hate or dislike Atheists,(I have Real life Atheist friends) I do however dislike the belief that there is no God. Though I realize that not everyone thinks the same as I; I do so wish that they did.
Wanderer
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β Wanderer 24 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 512 288C
Why? What reasoning/evidence do you have that should compel any reasonable, rational atheist to think that there is a God? And I expect better than 'the Bible tells me so'.

Since this aspect is completely encompassing religion, it seems an appropriate place to have this discussion, but I'll stop if people object.
timtoborne
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timtoborne 19 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic ENTP 512 186C
...Why is it that every one reads the first sentence and stops, assuming it's an insult? I just said, "I dislike the belief that there is no God," and that "Though I realize that not everyone thinks the same as I, I do so wish they did." There was no reason to make this argument. I wasn't trying to compel anyone to convert to my religion,I'm not a missionary, I was merely stating my mind.(I'm expecting a certain someone to come and bitch about that too!) I couldn't care less what other people believe in, that's their business.
Wanderer
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β Wanderer 24 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 512 288C
When you speak so disdainfully of atheism, I find it surprising that you don't expect an atheist to react negatively. If you're going to assert that you wish that everybody else was more like you (which comes across as very conceited when you don't support this with some reasoning), it's almost naive to not expect a backlash.

I didn't read the first sentence and stop, either, but I like this assumption. I also didn't take it as an attack, I simply asked you to explain the baseless wish that you presented.
SavageWolf
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SavageWolf 23 United Kingdom CholericMelancholic INTP 666 402C
Okay, okay. Cool it both of you. Nothing of use is going on here, it's just people going "Oh! Emotional attacks!". I don't think this argument is going anywhere in it's current state, so I'll intervene!

First of all, no emotional attacks. Okay? They don't do anything. Good debating techniques is to not use loaded language, or insults or anything like that. If you use insults and that, the other person will reply with their own insults as well, and then the entire debate just collapses and dies in a pile of sarcasm. Or something.

Tim, you are entitled to your opinion, yes, but you also should be able back it up. With some minor things, like your favorate colour, it really isn't neccissery to explain why you think it, but with important things like "Should this man go to jail", "Is it ethical to kill this person" and all that, it's important to back up your reasoning so others can understand. And I can hardly think of anything more important than who created the universe. This is what it means to be an open minded thinker, and is an important part of growing up... To have an opinion and to back it up; to listen to other people and reply with "Oh, I never thought of that", to gain new evidence and use it in your thoughts, to question things, all that stuff. Basic logic states that you should only accept something as true if you have logical reason to be true; if it has been derived from other facts, that sort of thing.

Wanderer, uh, stop being so vicious. Your language was rather loaded, and aggressive. If you want people to accept what you say, you should make your language more neutral, not looking down on people and calling them naive. So yes. That.

Okay, crisis averted. Phew. I should be a mod or something. Maybe. I made two spelling mistakes in this post, CAN YOU FIND THEM!?
Wanderer
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β Wanderer 24 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic INTP 512 288C
Thankyou for tempering me with this reply. You're right to point out my unnecessary hostility. I'm not usually a particularly angry person, which is why this is particularly shocking.
Drake
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I completely and totally agree with your point, 'tim' and I'm very pleased that you are posing a valid argument against an obviously misguided tyrant. Why would you think otherwise?