Interest - Smoking

Originally created by WhoamI
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Slowpoke
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Slowpoke 27 Spain MelancholicSanguine INTP 785 14C
I hate smoking because all of the last years being a "passive smoker", fault of my enviroment. Finally I became independet with some friends and now i can live in a place free of smoke.
david s
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david s 25 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1193C
Personally I really do hate smoking. I understand that there are people courteous enough to not smoke near someone when they're asked not to, and I understand that these people might not be "chain smokers" but smoking is still a bad habit that really isn't that great. I mean, even marijuana has some positive uses.(Appetite increases for chemotherapy patients, for instance.) But tobacco... regardless of how far someone is away from someone else when they smoke, it's likely going to have an effect. 1 cigarette won't do much, but when you consider how many cigarettes are smoked worldwide every day, then you begin to realize that this could present a problem in the long run. I mean, everyone knows about how air pollution is getting, and with the things in your average cigarette, I can't even fathom what they might be adding to this. I know it's rather small, but cigarettes don't have the benefits that come with other pollutants.(You don't fuel your car for your drive to work in a pipe, nor do you heat your home with a cigar or power a hospital with a fag, but other things, coal, natural gas and petroleum do those things.)

The health effects to others aren't always that dangerous, but around where I live, smoking is the 3rd biggest cause of house fires.(#1: Rats gnawing wires. #2: Arson.[I think. I'm not sure, but I know we have more arsons than any other state.]) If you're thinking about chewing tobacco... forget it. The stuff that does to your mouth is appalling.

One of the worst things about smoking though is this: It makes very hot girls look much older, often even looking like a villain from some Disney movie. Let's face it, although that's not the worst effect, it's one that more people notice and it's one that affects more people. I'm sick of going to my university and seeing all the girls smoking, knowing full well that they'll be 60 by the time they're 30. It's a major turn-off for me.

I don't hate tobacco, it's a plant that has leaves that can be dried in an unnatural process to make something bad, but in and of itself, it's neutral. By beef isn't really with smokers, they're simply trying to get a little more joy out of life. My beef is with the companies that decide to play down the whole "death" thing. The health effects are real, and something should be done about this. Do you mean to tell me that a multi-billion dollar tobacco company can't find a safe alternative?
Ribbit
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Ribbit 27 Germany MelancholicCholeric ISTJ 1127C
I sometimes imagine that the tobacco is the revenge of the indians on the whole world. After all they were the ones from whom the (ex-) Europeans copied the habit of smoking tobacco. It's probably a big, fiendish and long-termed master plan of them to avenge the tacking of their living grounds or something.

That would explain all of it, all the negative effects and why it dominates the world of legal drugs so much and so on. A curse probably comes with it so that the industrials are somehow forced to just sell tobacco and that makes everybody think who sees a smoking guy 'Oh, how cool he is.'
david s
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david s 25 United States MelancholicCholeric ISFJ 621 1193C
Interesting thought...

If that's the case, though, the ex-Europeans get the last laugh because when the ex-Europeans die from the tobacco use, the Native Americans will die from the alcohol. Oddly enough, alcohol is far more useful *in moderation* than alcohol.

As for the people selling tobacco though... I really think it's just the insufferable toxic wraith of capitalism. ALL HAIL THE INDUSTRIAL GIANTS! According to American law, they're people... according to a Texan, he'll consider them people when one is executed.(I mean, Coca-Cola is willing to refuse people in Africa clean drinking water, and even charges more for it than for their soda. I'm fairly certain the problem there is capitalism in general.)
AgainstTedium
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Selfishly, I like smoking. It isn't big or clever, but it is social (with other smokers) and I'm as considerate as possible to other non smokers - anyone who asks me to stop near them, I'll either mover away to another area or put out the cigarette. Of course if nobody ever asks me to stop smoking by them, then how will I ever know?

I can't stand the smell of stale smoke on my clothes, or the knowledge of what it does to my health, or the cost. I also agree with the smoking ban in enclosed public spaces.

However it does make me feel more like me after a couple of drags. It is also nice to pop out for a break in the work day, for a "breath of fresh air".

I would like to quit eventually, as I know it isn't a good thing to be doing, but it is one of my guilty pleasures.
Ribbit
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Ribbit 27 Germany MelancholicCholeric ISTJ 1127C
I feel somehow responsible (as a 'hater' of smoking) to say to you that this is fine then. If you are considerate of non-smokers why should I have any problem with that? Unless I would care about your health, but I'm not your mom.

But you should consider wearing a sign stating 'If you want I can stop smoking for now' because most people including me wouldn't be so unpolite to tell others they don't know to stop smoking near them (that, of course, was not meant seriously, but it also contains some truth in the reasoning).
lazarony
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lazarony 30 United States CholericSanguine ESTJ 8w7 503C
Personally, I find it a little silly that people hate smoking. Obviously, it has considerable adverse effects on those around, but so long as people are considerate about it, it shouldn't really affect us, right? I'm certainly no fan of smoking, and my biggest point of advocacy lies in the health of individuals, but, as Ribbit said, I'm not your mother.

How ironic, though, that you take a smoke break and get a "breath of fresh air"? I know you saw this irony, hence the quotes, but then is it just nice to take a break from work on its own? Theoretically, you should be able to take 15 minute breaks every couple hours anyway.
ThatGuySteve
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I resent smokers their "popping out for a break in the work day" because non smokers are generally not allowed to take extra breaks during the working day in my experience. I don't know if you personally get to take extra breaks or what your work situation is but I've worked several jobs where I've been unfairly treated because I was a non-smoker.

There is also, on average, a significantly greater economic loss of productivity among smokers for companies due to more missed days of work and more time spent unproductively at work (usually between 50-100% greater losses than for non-smokers). As others have said, I'm not your mum, but if I were a manager, I'd be concerned about losses I may incur due to my employees being smokers. I don't hate smokers, but I hate unfairness and non-productivity.
Ribbit
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Ribbit 27 Germany MelancholicCholeric ISTJ 1127C
Concerning the unfairness of smoking breaks: I totally agree with you there. My father (a non-smoker) told me that he used to took his 'apple break' then, when the others took their smoking breaks. He got into troubles for that first but nobody could bring up any smart reasons for that, so everything was fine. Maybe try that next time and see how the reactions are?
lazarony
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lazarony 30 United States CholericSanguine ESTJ 8w7 503C
That's a rather funny, and fair, idea. Very nice, Ribbit.
AgainstTedium
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AgainstTedium 33 United Kingdom SanguinePhlegmatic ENTP 7w8 36C
As it so happens, the breaks are worked into the day for everyone (as I work in a school), but I agree with you that it is unfair, unless you take the apple break! (Great idea Ribbit's Dad!)

I also know of several people in office jobs who go out for a break with the smokers, whether they smoke or not. One of these who is a manager, says that the short breaks every couple of hours refocusses everyone and the overall productivity goes up. Apparently this is due to both the physical break and the social bonding that goes on on the breaks outside the office, rather than inside when they should be working. I only have his word for it though.